# Ant Group Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** 📊 Investing\ **Created:** [October 30, 2020, 11:08am UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/ant-group-discussion/24548 "2020-10-30T11:08:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![EquityInvestor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8491ac/32.png) [@EquityInvestor](https://community.trading212.com/u/EquityInvestor)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 1:26pm UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/ant-group-discussion/24548/62 "2020-12-28T13:26:24Z")
Alibaba’s share price continues to fall. It is down nearly 8% today, on the Hong Kong Stock Exchange. ![imagen](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/trading212/original/2X/5/5aa097a1fea0c308e9fdc281f6eb030f6e49faa2.png) > **[Alibaba shares fall 8% after Beijing turns up heat on Ant](https://www.ft.com/content/55b2fcc1-4ea6-496a-92c3-ae36f3d36278)** > > Chinese authorities publicly accuse Jack Ma’s financial unit of regulatory failings ---
**Author:** ![Vedran](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.trading212.com/vedran/32/182_2.png) [@Vedran](https://community.trading212.com/u/Vedran)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 1:29pm UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/ant-group-discussion/24548/63 "2020-12-28T13:29:17Z")
Sounds like extra discount on the way, thanks 🇨🇳 ---
**Author:** ![adindas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9f8e36/32.png) [@adindas](https://community.trading212.com/u/adindas)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 1:43pm UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/ant-group-discussion/24548/64 "2020-12-28T13:43:18Z")
There are three legit strategies that could be applied. 1. Keep your position. 2. Keep half, sell half (or whatever proportion) 3. Liquidate all of you position and re-enter later with a lower price. I have applid all of them in different cases, sometimes work sometimes do not. These three strategies are legit and each to their own, no absolute right or wrong as we do not have a crystal ball. I myself have tried the third one a few times and get caught a few times. The problem with this is that you might re-enter with higher price than when you first purchased it originally as when there is a news or announcement it will jump significantly. I might do that If I am still in Green, not Red. I hardly ever sell my position when they are in red. I remember Warren Buffet rule of capital preservation “Rule No. 1: Never lose money. Rule No. 2: Never forget rule No. 1.” I normally do the second when I need funding for a more lucrative trade. I will normally apply the third one even at a loss and never reenter if there is a fundamental change in business e.g clear evidence of Bankruptcy. In this case the option is you lose part of money or all of money. In this particular case everyone will now what to do. This guys is a pro Trader and he has done a good deskwork. It will save your time. But as always be we also need to do our own DD to make our own decision. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UimxhMtBB5w](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UimxhMtBB5w) (Part 1) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgtP6cu7qcY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgtP6cu7qcY) (Part 2) ---
**Author:** ![InvestOnly](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.trading212.com/investonly/32/8010_2.png) [@InvestOnly](https://community.trading212.com/u/InvestOnly)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 2:08pm UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/ant-group-discussion/24548/65 "2020-12-28T14:08:24Z")
@Lenos1980 these people baited you into baba eyy mate, u know it’s tesla and Ai / Gene all the way ---
**Author:** ![adindas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9f8e36/32.png) [@adindas](https://community.trading212.com/u/adindas)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 3:02pm UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/ant-group-discussion/24548/66 "2020-12-28T15:02:35Z")
Who is baited ? WHy the retailer invcestor here on Trading 212 need to do that? How the retailer investors here on Trading212 will effect the price movement ? how many shares are bought from Trading 212 needed to influecne the price ?? If you just start thinking about in ivesting inTesla and other EV stocks, AI people (including me) have been investing in Tesla, AI since the early days. So if the people start talkign about investing in Tesla there might be anoher accuse that people are trying to bait other people to invest in Tesla. In any decison you make your own DD you take the gain you take the pain for your own decision. We all know that this forus has never been a recomendation to buy/sell/hold share. ---
**Author:** ![InvestOnly](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.trading212.com/investonly/32/8010_2.png) [@InvestOnly](https://community.trading212.com/u/InvestOnly)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 3:36pm UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/ant-group-discussion/24548/67 "2020-12-28T15:36:52Z")
lmao i was being sarcastic; it’s a intern thing between me and @Lenos1980 😂😂😂🤫 ---
**Author:** ![Lenos1980](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/58956e/32.png) [@Lenos1980](https://community.trading212.com/u/Lenos1980)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2020, 5:33pm UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/ant-group-discussion/24548/68 "2020-12-28T17:33:18Z")
Well for now it’s stayed in the green, fundamentally baba is hard to flaw. With the way the market moves with news and more speculative talks, it just worries me that’s all. Hopefully a year from now the ant group will get news for its ipo, the CCP will relax the pressure and we will all be happy again. @InvestOnly as I’ve said before fundamentally Tesla is a worship stock with the current valuation, but it keeps bringing the profits 📈. I’m in Tesla until it shows me a reason not to be ---
**Author:** ![adindas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9f8e36/32.png) [@adindas](https://community.trading212.com/u/adindas)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2020, 1:42pm UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/ant-group-discussion/24548/69 "2020-12-29T13:42:07Z")
Alibaba Analysis from Benzinga and how to trade it [![](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/trading212/original/2X/7/7813706723103b48e3001ce3813a07d675ac59ff.jpeg "Is the BABA regulatory saga over? | PreMarket Prep") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbzFCyQ9bVI) ---
**Author:** ![Lenos1980](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/58956e/32.png) [@Lenos1980](https://community.trading212.com/u/Lenos1980)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2020, 2:31pm UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/ant-group-discussion/24548/70 "2020-12-29T14:31:27Z")
How is everyone feeling about this today given the talks of a holding company being set up to house all financial services that will then be fully banking sector compliant? ---
**Author:** ![Vedran](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.trading212.com/vedran/32/182_2.png) [@Vedran](https://community.trading212.com/u/Vedran)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2020, 2:39pm UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/ant-group-discussion/24548/71 "2020-12-29T14:39:45Z")
I personally hope for more panic and despair, for it to dip in low 200s. 🎅 ---
**Author:** ![Lenos1980](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/58956e/32.png) [@Lenos1980](https://community.trading212.com/u/Lenos1980)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2020, 4:52pm UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/ant-group-discussion/24548/72 "2020-12-29T16:52:35Z")
Not at all worried about a long recovery? Or the break up of the higher profit companies? ---
**Author:** ![Vedran](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.trading212.com/vedran/32/182_2.png) [@Vedran](https://community.trading212.com/u/Vedran)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2020, 4:58pm UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/ant-group-discussion/24548/73 "2020-12-29T16:58:15Z")
Well if China wants to shoot itself in the foot, nothing I can do about that. But Baba is currently biggest steal on the market. Obviously I am not crazy to go 20% portfolio allocation to BABA, but healthy 5-7% is something I am willing to risk if price dips to low 200s. ---
**Author:** ![adindas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9f8e36/32.png) [@adindas](https://community.trading212.com/u/adindas)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2020, 7:29pm UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/ant-group-discussion/24548/74 "2020-12-29T19:29:08Z")
# Bulls bet on Alibaba on CNBC [![](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/trading212/original/2X/b/b84b35e187dd196b54f9feac928b69fb846694a1.jpeg "Bulls bet on Alibaba") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHmAmmKtLWY) My belief, just wait about in a few weeks before it is going back to be all time high ---
**Author:** ![vento](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.trading212.com/vento/32/19218_2.png) [@vento](https://community.trading212.com/u/vento)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2020, 8:50pm UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/ant-group-discussion/24548/75 "2020-12-29T20:50:01Z")
Finally an opportunity to get into BABA. ![Untitled](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/trading212/original/2X/3/3a558db4f7c659993e6ab19cca52ac46309e0a4c.png) ---
**Author:** ![Hbomb](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.trading212.com/hbomb/32/8551_2.png) [@Hbomb](https://community.trading212.com/u/Hbomb)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 11:06am UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/ant-group-discussion/24548/76 "2020-12-30T11:06:07Z")
I preferred the $216 price to add more personally 😃 ---
**Author:** ![adindas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9f8e36/32.png) [@adindas](https://community.trading212.com/u/adindas)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 6:40pm UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/ant-group-discussion/24548/77 "2020-12-30T18:40:05Z")
I just notice ARK Invest has started adding their position on BABA since Yesterday. December 29, 2020. _Hbomb “I preferred the $216 price to add more personally”_ @Hbomb, good luck then if you ever see that price again in a few years to come. ---
**Author:** ![Lenos1980](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/58956e/32.png) [@Lenos1980](https://community.trading212.com/u/Lenos1980)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 6:56pm UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/ant-group-discussion/24548/78 "2020-12-30T18:56:25Z")
I think @Hbomb was just stating that because we were all watching it unfold so most of us bought in at pre $220 levels ---
**Author:** ![vento](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.trading212.com/vento/32/19218_2.png) [@vento](https://community.trading212.com/u/vento)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 7:03pm UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/ant-group-discussion/24548/79 "2020-12-30T19:03:14Z")
I didn’t have the money that day 😢 ---
**Author:** ![adindas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9f8e36/32.png) [@adindas](https://community.trading212.com/u/adindas)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2020, 11:38pm UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/ant-group-discussion/24548/80 "2020-12-30T23:38:44Z")
![Screenshot_2020-12-30 BABA Stock Forecast, Price Targets and Analysts Predictions](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/trading212/original/2X/a/a1cd289a5c70ce4aaa011c62e820106562a853c5.png) - 21 Wallstreet Analysts " ALL Buy" (No holding or Selling, very unusual) - ARK Invest is buying since yesterday. - CNBC Analysist Jon N “Bulls bet on Alibaba (see above)” - Benzinga recommnedation Is there any stronger conviction than this ?? I would like to know. ---
**Author:** ![Lenos1980](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/58956e/32.png) [@Lenos1980](https://community.trading212.com/u/Lenos1980)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2020, 9:06am UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/ant-group-discussion/24548/81 "2020-12-31T09:06:25Z")
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