# Does anyone use a stock advisor **URL:** \ **Category:** ⚖ Active trading\ **Created:** [September 22, 2020, 6:07pm UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/does-anyone-use-a-stock-advisor/20633 "2020-09-22T18:07:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![HopelessFool](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.trading212.com/hopelessfool/32/7321_2.png) [@HopelessFool](https://community.trading212.com/u/HopelessFool)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 11:51am UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/does-anyone-use-a-stock-advisor/20633/43 "2020-12-01T11:51:29Z")
Agree. I’m also subscribing. Good results so far. ---
**Author:** ![adrazz](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.trading212.com/adrazz/32/7692_2.png) [@adrazz](https://community.trading212.com/u/adrazz)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2020, 4:54pm UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/does-anyone-use-a-stock-advisor/20633/44 "2020-12-01T16:54:49Z")
I use Travis and Falcon stocks ---
**Author:** ![adindas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9f8e36/32.png) [@adindas](https://community.trading212.com/u/adindas)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2021, 7:17pm UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/does-anyone-use-a-stock-advisor/20633/45 "2021-10-06T19:17:24Z")
If TMF is so good why they do not just form an investment company and generate ETF of mutual funds and charge a premium management fees. ?? People will invest it if they could see an excellent result to justify the premium price. Just look at the record of their analysts posted in their website. ---
**Author:** ![Scrooge\_McCodf](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.trading212.com/scrooge_mccodf/32/18951_2.png) [@Scrooge\_McCodf](https://community.trading212.com/u/Scrooge_McCodf)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2021, 7:20pm UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/does-anyone-use-a-stock-advisor/20633/46 "2021-10-06T19:20:58Z")
They have done this on a number of occasions, they have ETFs and managed funds and now an angel fund. The issue is David Gardner doesn’t run them as he prefers to give you the ticker and let you do the buying. Don’t mix up the free service with the paid. They’re world’s apart. ---
**Author:** ![Dougal1984](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.trading212.com/dougal1984/32/14304_2.png) [@Dougal1984](https://community.trading212.com/u/Dougal1984)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2021, 8:13pm UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/does-anyone-use-a-stock-advisor/20633/47 "2021-10-06T20:13:46Z")
> [@adindas](#): > > TMF is so good why they do not just form an investment company They have. Some more characters. Unfortunately there is more than one way to skin a cat and some are more costlier than others 🙃 ---
**Author:** ![adindas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9f8e36/32.png) [@adindas](https://community.trading212.com/u/adindas)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2021, 9:02pm UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/does-anyone-use-a-stock-advisor/20633/48 "2021-10-06T21:02:05Z")
![Motley](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/trading212/original/3X/e/a/eab70f84cc0a16b2c9387cd4aaabecc8d9f4e08b.jpeg) Their 3 years performance. [https://www.mfamfunds.com/motley-fool-100-index.html](https://www.mfamfunds.com/motley-fool-100-index.html) With such performance there are reasonable number of retail investors, the apes will beat them. Let alone acute hedge fund managers. Also the way they are advertising it, is very exagerating, like this ![total return](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/trading212/original/3X/0/8/082adfb3a90fdce31ee174d039338ed20fd2521f.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Scrooge\_McCodf](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.trading212.com/scrooge_mccodf/32/18951_2.png) [@Scrooge\_McCodf](https://community.trading212.com/u/Scrooge_McCodf)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2021, 9:10pm UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/does-anyone-use-a-stock-advisor/20633/49 "2021-10-06T21:10:01Z")
> [@adindas](#): > > Also the way they are advertising it is very exagerating, like this They’re completely different services. You’re getting mixed up. ---
**Author:** ![Jobloggs](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.trading212.com/jobloggs/32/5398_2.png) [@Jobloggs](https://community.trading212.com/u/Jobloggs)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2021, 9:33pm UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/does-anyone-use-a-stock-advisor/20633/50 "2021-10-06T21:33:36Z")
What’s the service you’re referring to @Scrooge_McCodf? ---
**Author:** ![Scrooge\_McCodf](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.trading212.com/scrooge_mccodf/32/18951_2.png) [@Scrooge\_McCodf](https://community.trading212.com/u/Scrooge_McCodf)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2021, 9:54pm UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/does-anyone-use-a-stock-advisor/20633/51 "2021-10-06T21:54:58Z")
People here are getting mixed up with their managed funds / ETFs and their Stock Advisor or Rule Breaker (RBI) services - they’re world’s apart. I see it all the time. Those with the strongest opinions about the Fool have either A - absolutely no idea what they’re comparing. Or B - have absolutely no experience of the offerings. Or C - Read the free articles and think that’s somehow representative of the premium. Here’s some of their top picks. This isn’t from IPO to now - this is from when they recommended them to users: - **Amazon: it’s up 15,295%** - **Netflix: it’s up 18,410%** - **MercadoLibre: it’s up 11,272%** - **Tesla: it’s up 9,424%** - **Shopify: it’s up 4,914%** - **Salesforce: it’s up 3,176%** - **Intuitive Surgical: it’s up 3,553%** - **Chipotle Mexican Grill: it’s up 2,045.2%** - **Monster Beverage: it’s up 1,484%** - **Baidu: it’s up 1,834%** - **Universal Display: it’s up $1,223.5%** Here’s the results of David’s last 24 picks. ![Screenshot_20211006-230534](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/trading212/original/3X/c/b/cb1a3f63735731fc8c1a8e1a37f81df4b14faed9.jpeg) Not bad. One red out of 24. Easy year though huh? How about a few more years data: ![Screenshot_20211006-230518](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/trading212/original/3X/3/4/34300ab5951ab161ef132b57248462e67d032b52.jpeg) Fool was one of the best stock recommendation platforms out there, streets ahead of most competition. Wouldn’t buy the service today though. ---
**Author:** ![MoneyMondays](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.trading212.com/moneymondays/32/19867_2.png) [@MoneyMondays](https://community.trading212.com/u/MoneyMondays)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 4:25am UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/does-anyone-use-a-stock-advisor/20633/52 "2021-10-07T04:25:32Z")
This is true, inflation eventually works in favour of the stock market over the long-tern ---
**Author:** ![Jobloggs](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.trading212.com/jobloggs/32/5398_2.png) [@Jobloggs](https://community.trading212.com/u/Jobloggs)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 5:32am UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/does-anyone-use-a-stock-advisor/20633/53 "2021-10-07T05:32:41Z")
> [@Scrooge\_McCodf](#): > > Wouldn’t buy the service today though. How comes? Given the above information it looks pretty good? ---
**Author:** ![Scrooge\_McCodf](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.trading212.com/scrooge_mccodf/32/18951_2.png) [@Scrooge\_McCodf](https://community.trading212.com/u/Scrooge_McCodf)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 7:31am UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/does-anyone-use-a-stock-advisor/20633/54 "2021-10-07T07:31:29Z")
David Gardner has retired this year from the stock picking side, he’s moved onto charitable ventures. He’s the star of the show for growth. His brother Tom is more of a value player. They have some impressive people to replace him I think Aaron Bush and Emily Flippen are the main two. They’re very young and green though - I’d wait to see if the results continue. ---
**Author:** ![adindas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9f8e36/32.png) [@adindas](https://community.trading212.com/u/adindas)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 8:06am UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/does-anyone-use-a-stock-advisor/20633/55 "2021-10-07T08:06:09Z")
- **Amazon: it’s up 15,295%** - **Netflix: it’s up 18,410%** - **MercadoLibre: it’s up 11,272%** - **Tesla: it’s up 9,424%** - **Shopify: it’s up 4,914%** - **Salesforce: it’s up 3,176%** - **Intuitive Surgical: it’s up 3,553%** - **Chipotle Mexican Grill: it’s up 2,045.2%** - **Monster Beverage: it’s up 1,484%** - **Baidu: it’s up 1,834%** - **Universal Display: it’s up $1,223.5%** So Amazing. They should become the richest man on earth by now shall they follow their own advice ? ![Capture1](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/trading212/original/3X/0/8/081ea6c7d7de3efa595a0826fa3b3e37779c6a51.jpeg) [https://www.wiki.ng/en/wiki/david-gardner-bio-wiki-age-height-wife-motley-fool-and-net-worth-603880](https://www.wiki.ng/en/wiki/david-gardner-bio-wiki-age-height-wife-motley-fool-and-net-worth-603880) This image above says a different story If they are so good why not just form an investment company. People will be willing to pay even 100% management fee for people who could turn the money to become 624%+ . For such thing you do not need to advertise it, as the people will come to you. The news will cover you intensively. ![Motley](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/trading212/original/3X/e/a/eab70f84cc0a16b2c9387cd4aaabecc8d9f4e08b.jpeg) The fact that they keep doing self advertisement advertising it aggressively say a lot of thing. Like this ![total return](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/trading212/original/3X/0/8/082adfb3a90fdce31ee174d039338ed20fd2521f.jpeg) Are there people outthere who subscribe to motleyfool and hold it for 3-5 years (MotleyFool own advice) get avarage return of 624% ? The clue is in the name **"fool"** ---
**Author:** ![Scrooge\_McCodf](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.trading212.com/scrooge_mccodf/32/18951_2.png) [@Scrooge\_McCodf](https://community.trading212.com/u/Scrooge_McCodf)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 8:34am UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/does-anyone-use-a-stock-advisor/20633/56 "2021-10-07T08:34:09Z")
> [@adindas](#): > > are there anyone here who subscribe to motleyfool an hold it for 3-5 years (Motley own advice) get avarage return of 624% ? I’m not sure if you’re intentionally poorly representing the statistics or you genuinely don’t understand. The number you’re quoting is all of the picks returns to date divided by the number of picks. It’s simple maths. There’s no con here. It’s just the stats. > [@adindas](#): > > The clue is in the name **“fool”** Again elementary research here would tell you that this is in reference to the collective - a motley band of fools - it’s Shakespeare - the masses, the fools, doing better than the professionals. > [@adindas](#): > > If they are so good why not just form an investment company. People will be willing to pay even 100% management fee for people who could turn the money to become 624%+ . Lol. That’s not how percentages work 🤣 If you paid 100% fee that would be all of it. Regardless of your gain. > [@adindas](#): > > For such thing you do not need to advertise it, as the people will come to you. The news will cover you intensively. He doesn’t want to. He’s a strong advocate of Conscious Capitalism. He’s not interested in the big picture. > [@adindas](#): > > So Amazing. They should become the richest man on earth by now shall they follow their own advice ? I would assume those numbers aren’t including his stock in the Motley Fool itself, which would have that number looking much higher. Bezos would look similarly less impressive if you deducted the value of his stock in Amazon. My query to you is; Why do you have such an aggressively negative opinion on something you know absolutely nothing about. You’ve demonstrated you have no clue about the company, the founders and how it is run? Who hurt you? ---
**Author:** ![adindas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9f8e36/32.png) [@adindas](https://community.trading212.com/u/adindas)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 9:04am UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/does-anyone-use-a-stock-advisor/20633/57 "2021-10-07T09:04:12Z")
Does anyone who subscribe to motleyfool and hold it for 3-5 years (MotleyFool own advice) get average return of 624% ? ![total return](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/trading212/original/3X/0/8/082adfb3a90fdce31ee174d039338ed20fd2521f.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Dougal1984](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.trading212.com/dougal1984/32/14304_2.png) [@Dougal1984](https://community.trading212.com/u/Dougal1984)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 5:57am UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/does-anyone-use-a-stock-advisor/20633/58 "2021-10-19T05:57:05Z")
I think the clue is in the clickbait screenshot. ‘Average Returns’ - meaning some people get more, some less. All depending if they bought every stock and when they started the service (no mention of the time period those returns were calculated but I suspect right from the start to capture Amazon). ---
**Author:** ![Scrooge\_McCodf](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.trading212.com/scrooge_mccodf/32/18951_2.png) [@Scrooge\_McCodf](https://community.trading212.com/u/Scrooge_McCodf)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 6:34am UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/does-anyone-use-a-stock-advisor/20633/59 "2021-10-19T06:34:04Z")
Stock Advisor is the longest running service. So it’ll go back as far as you suggest. ---
**Author:** ![Fabrizio82RC](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.trading212.com/fabrizio82rc/32/17340_2.png) [@Fabrizio82RC](https://community.trading212.com/u/Fabrizio82RC)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2021, 12:31am UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/does-anyone-use-a-stock-advisor/20633/60 "2021-11-02T00:31:20Z")
I am using the Value Line Investment Survey, a great investment tool with all the data you need and quite for a while around, the company is about 90 years old. It was one of the repeatedly mentioned by Peter Lynch in his books so I got curious and so far I started with one subscription now I have a few however in 9 months investing since I first followed their tips via paid newsletters or other services included for example the “one stocks to buy right now”, I have made so far more than 6 times the money I spent for subscriptions. I was also considering MF they have nice articles already for the unpaid service, reading your posts though I am starting to consider some paid service… ---
**Author:** ![Fabrizio82RC](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.trading212.com/fabrizio82rc/32/17340_2.png) [@Fabrizio82RC](https://community.trading212.com/u/Fabrizio82RC)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2021, 2:28am UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/does-anyone-use-a-stock-advisor/20633/61 "2021-11-02T02:28:34Z")
Curious of your comments about it I just subscribed to the Motley Fool this morning, their latest stocks recommendation are Lulu, FB, Amazon, Netflix, Tesla, Shopify…are them for real? Do I need their paid advices to “notice” these stocks and eventually (which I am not) buy them? I hope there is more interesting things to find out in their subscription, good thing is that I can unsubscribe within 30 days and get a full refund. Value Line Investment Survey all the way, no comparison for analysis and recommendations, I got stock tips of companies that I believe many investors don’t know, the real not under the radar stocks. Anyway I will keep the subscription for MF for this month and see how it goes, but it didn’t start in the idyllic way I thought it would. ---
**Author:** ![jo945](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f05b48/32.png) [@jo945](https://community.trading212.com/u/jo945)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2021, 12:48pm UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/does-anyone-use-a-stock-advisor/20633/62 "2021-11-04T12:48:17Z")
I’ve never used an advisor as i prefer my own research but I have considered Strowz. They give signals for £2.99 pm with 14 day trail or £4.99 with a virtual fund manager. If someone Is a fan of them might be worth a look. [Previous page](https://community.trading212.com/t/does-anyone-use-a-stock-advisor/20633.md?page=2) [Next page](https://community.trading212.com/t/does-anyone-use-a-stock-advisor/20633.md?page=4)