# World’s first FAANGs ETP **URL:** \ **Category:** 📊 Investing\ **Created:** [March 9, 2021, 6:27am UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/world-s-first-faangs-etp/47130 "2021-03-09T06:27:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Marc45](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5fc32e/32.png) [@Marc45](https://community.trading212.com/u/Marc45)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2021, 3:16pm UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/world-s-first-faangs-etp/47130/63 "2021-05-28T15:16:24Z")
FATANG was really penalized by Tesla’s drop this month. Personally, I have invested in GAFAM 1x since its creation. I get a performance of more than 12% 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![RLX](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.trading212.com/rlx/32/7051_2.png) [@RLX](https://community.trading212.com/u/RLX)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2021, 3:26pm UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/world-s-first-faangs-etp/47130/64 "2021-05-28T15:26:40Z")
Speaking about Tesla, in Morningstar Ireland (returns converted to EUR) have some curious returns at 1M (all the other time frames seems correct), almost **+200 000% on -3x Tesla in EUR and GBP** (recent additions to GS line), but only **34.22% in the USD** version: ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/trading212/original/2X/a/a1ff78a441ef000016cd210cc5da17af85a83f01.png) [https://www.morningstarfunds.ie/ie/screener/etf.aspx#?filtersSelectedValue={"brandingCompanyId":{"id":"BN00000JDJ"}}&page=1&sortField=gbrReturnM1&sortOrder=desc](https://www.morningstarfunds.ie/ie/screener/etf.aspx#?filtersSelectedValue=%7B%22brandingCompanyId%22:%7B%22id%22:%22BN00000JDJ%22%7D%7D&page=1&sortField=gbrReturnM1&sortOrder=desc) I know that the differences between the different currencies is due to FX fluctuations. ---
**Author:** ![RLX](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.trading212.com/rlx/32/7051_2.png) [@RLX](https://community.trading212.com/u/RLX)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2021, 3:33pm UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/world-s-first-faangs-etp/47130/65 "2021-05-28T15:33:18Z")
> [@Marc45](#): > > FATANG was really penalized by Tesla’s drop this month. It’s a repeating phenomenon in the last months. Tesla dropping and penalizing the FATANG, if it was football, Tesla were already sacked from the team. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Marc45](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5fc32e/32.png) [@Marc45](https://community.trading212.com/u/Marc45)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2021, 3:46pm UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/world-s-first-faangs-etp/47130/66 "2021-05-28T15:46:58Z")
the 200.000% performance displayed on MorningStar is due to the reverse split. They did not take it into account! ---
**Author:** ![RLX](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.trading212.com/rlx/32/7051_2.png) [@RLX](https://community.trading212.com/u/RLX)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2021, 3:54pm UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/world-s-first-faangs-etp/47130/67 "2021-05-28T15:54:55Z")
I didn’t remember that. But it seems that the USD version was adjusted to the reverse split. It would be nice to have a two-thousand bagger in a month. 💰 💰 💰 💰 ---
**Author:** ![RLX](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.trading212.com/rlx/32/7051_2.png) [@RLX](https://community.trading212.com/u/RLX)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2021, 5:50pm UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/world-s-first-faangs-etp/47130/68 "2021-05-28T17:50:32Z")
> [@RLX](#): > > With 1,5 days to finish this month Although the US markets are closed on Monday, the ETPs with US stocks use the European versions of the US stocks to get the underlying value? Could you explain better this? On Monday the UK market is also closed, so no trading for GS ETPs, because all GS ETPs are only traded on LSE? Having a single listing could be a disadvantage due to holidays, although it have the advantage of concentrating the volume. ---
**Author:** ![Dougal1984](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.trading212.com/dougal1984/32/14304_2.png) [@Dougal1984](https://community.trading212.com/u/Dougal1984)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2021, 7:09pm UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/world-s-first-faangs-etp/47130/69 "2021-05-28T19:09:33Z")
> [@RLX](#): > > are closed on Monday, the ETPs with US stocks use the European versions of the US stocks to get the underlying value? Could you explain better this? > > On Monday the UK market is also closed, so no trading for GS ETPs, because all GS ETPs are only traded on LSE? > > Having a single listing could be a disadvantage due to holidays, although it have the advantage of concentrating the volume. Are you asking yourself a question? ---
**Author:** ![RLX](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.trading212.com/rlx/32/7051_2.png) [@RLX](https://community.trading212.com/u/RLX)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2021, 7:44pm UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/world-s-first-faangs-etp/47130/70 "2021-05-28T19:44:00Z")
Nope. I’m asking several questions to @Marc45 , as he is a GS representative. ---
**Author:** ![Marc45](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5fc32e/32.png) [@Marc45](https://community.trading212.com/u/Marc45)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2021, 8:26am UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/world-s-first-faangs-etp/47130/71 "2021-05-31T08:26:52Z")
Even with the Dogecoin, +200.000% is not possible 😃 🤑 ---
**Author:** ![Marc45](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5fc32e/32.png) [@Marc45](https://community.trading212.com/u/Marc45)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2021, 8:41am UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/world-s-first-faangs-etp/47130/72 "2021-05-31T08:41:29Z")
That’s a good question. For today, US markets and UK markets are closed. So GraniteShares ETPs cannot be traded… there cannot be a problem or no worry about that. But let’s assume that UK market is open, or that GraniteShares ETP are listed on Euronext too. In that case for the US single stock ETPs, they will track the stocks listed in Europe (Xetra or Euronext Paris) as US stocks are listed in Europe. Most probably spreads will be larger due to less liquidity on the underlying in EU. For the UK single stock ETPs it will be an issue (maybe) and the ETPs will be traded on the demand and offer of the ETP only. Having multiple Exchange listing is on the road map of GraniteShares, we are also exploring being listed on some MTF (Multi-lateral Trading Facilities). But there is many things to be considered before doing it (like holidays, that can be an issue in some cases). ---
**Author:** ![Marc45](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5fc32e/32.png) [@Marc45](https://community.trading212.com/u/Marc45)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2021, 8:42am UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/world-s-first-faangs-etp/47130/73 "2021-05-31T08:42:16Z")
Yes, I work at GraniteShares and I will be happy to answer all questions 😉 ---
**Author:** ![RLX](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.trading212.com/rlx/32/7051_2.png) [@RLX](https://community.trading212.com/u/RLX)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2021, 1:31pm UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/world-s-first-faangs-etp/47130/74 "2021-05-31T13:31:06Z")
As usual, good source of knowledge. > [@Marc45](#): > > Even with the Dogecoin, +200.000% is not possible 😃 🤑 Well… We are living in strange times. Not even comparing to 10 years ago or 5 years ago, the twilight zone is present in the financial markets (and on other areas). Too much exuberance and high rate of disruption. ---
**Author:** ![Marc45](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5fc32e/32.png) [@Marc45](https://community.trading212.com/u/Marc45)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 8:36am UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/world-s-first-faangs-etp/47130/75 "2021-06-01T08:36:30Z")
Stephen Jarislowsky vs Jim Cramer > **[High-flying tech stocks could 'collapse,' Jarislowsky warns - BNN Bloomberg](https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/high-flying-tech-stocks-could-collapse-jarislowsky-warns-1.1610785)** > > Legendary investor Stephen Jarislowsky is warning investors may want to stay away from the high-flying tech stocks. ---
**Author:** ![Marc45](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5fc32e/32.png) [@Marc45](https://community.trading212.com/u/Marc45)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 9:22am UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/world-s-first-faangs-etp/47130/76 "2021-06-09T09:22:41Z")
> **[How To Invest In FANG ETFs](https://www.graniteshares.com/institutional/uk/en-uk/research/how-to-invest-in-fang-etfs/)** > > Want to know how to invest in FANG ETFs? GraniteShares explains everything you need to know about FANG ETFs. ---
**Author:** ![Marc45](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5fc32e/32.png) [@Marc45](https://community.trading212.com/u/Marc45)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2021, 8:02am UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/world-s-first-faangs-etp/47130/77 "2021-06-21T08:02:13Z")
> **[David Tepper Hates Social Media, but Still Loves FAANG Stocks](https://www.institutionalinvestor.com/article/b1s9k4z05vht82/David-Tepper-Hates-Social-Media-but-Still-Loves-FAANG-Stocks)** > > Speaking at Robin Hood’s annual conference, the Appaloosa founder opined on his favorite stocks, ESG, and China. ---
**Author:** ![Marc45](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5fc32e/32.png) [@Marc45](https://community.trading212.com/u/Marc45)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2021, 9:11am UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/world-s-first-faangs-etp/47130/78 "2021-06-22T09:11:58Z")
> **[FATANG Stocks](https://www.graniteshares.com/institutional/uk/en-uk/research/fatang-stocks/)** > > Are you considering investing in FATANG stocks? GraniteShares tells you everything you need to know about FATANG stocks ---
**Author:** ![Marc45](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5fc32e/32.png) [@Marc45](https://community.trading212.com/u/Marc45)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2021, 8:01am UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/world-s-first-faangs-etp/47130/79 "2021-06-28T08:01:23Z")
Despite the antitrust threat that hangs over the FAANGs in several countries around the world, the FAANGs continue to perform better. ---
**Author:** ![RLX](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.trading212.com/rlx/32/7051_2.png) [@RLX](https://community.trading212.com/u/RLX)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2021, 9:12am UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/world-s-first-faangs-etp/47130/80 "2021-06-28T09:12:45Z")
Anti-trust threat could also bring new opportunities. If going long is bad, just go the other direction. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Marc45](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5fc32e/32.png) [@Marc45](https://community.trading212.com/u/Marc45)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 5:24am UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/world-s-first-faangs-etp/47130/81 "2021-06-30T05:24:19Z")
Now that Facebook has reached a capitalization of 1 trillion, GAFAM represents 8.5 trilion of market capitalization. ---
**Author:** ![Marc45](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5fc32e/32.png) [@Marc45](https://community.trading212.com/u/Marc45)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 7:50am UTC](https://community.trading212.com/t/world-s-first-faangs-etp/47130/82 "2021-07-19T07:50:35Z")
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