CBBT has been limited to selling shares only

that won’t happen Sal. you will be given opportunity to sell your shares should they have to remove any for some reason. your shares will never just be taken away from you outright.

there is good chance these close-only penny stocks could regain their status or better in the future that would allow you to trade them normally again. T212 would be straight to removing the buy restriction as soon as they can.

1 Like

Its not

1 Like

Can anyone find that?

https://backend.otcmarkets.com/otcapi/company/sec-filings/14713371/content/pdf

  1. the issuer has Net Tangible Assets in excess of $2 million if the issuer has been in continuous operations for at least 3 years or $5 million if less than 3 years.

Edit Hang on a minute that was filed on Tuesday, as in the 16 Feb 2021. So is she saying as of Tuesday she now thinks it should be PSE?

As in before that filing they would have not been recorded as PSE, like when it was added to T212…

Screenshot_20210219-001207

Also I’m not a CFO but I’m seeing less than what’s required?

Cash 372,591
Inventories 1,473,749
Property and equipment 62,931

$1,909,271

2 Likes

Isn’t it even lower than that? I thought net tangible assets had a bunch of stuff deducted like the intangible assets and the current liabilities

Imagine the CFO is actually incorrect and doesn’t know the company’s own balance sheet :eyes::eyes: maybe people will think twice about complaining they cannot buy this stock (disclaimer: this is a joke pls don’t get upset)

Edit: yeah I’m really confused now. So seemingly net tangible assets is
Total assets - Intangible assets (includes goodwill) - Total liabilities
In which case GAXY net tangible assets is well below 0 nevermind 2m… but again it is 1am so I may be missing something

2 Likes

Lost so much money entering a trade 2 days before this penny stock exemption is put on us with no warning whatsoever - Trading 212 needs to take responsibility for this, hoping we can come to a resolution considering how many traders/investors have been affected.

Trading 212 has been my go to trading app for its ease of use and transparency, however it is really quickly going downhill for a lot of us. Please do something about this. Big losses in CBBT for me.

I know trading 212 are flagging all my future from now on citing community guidelines. How about about flag their own customer service guidelines which seems to be on existent at this time. Removing the buying option for certain stocks without giving me as a client notice is against terms of service as a client of trading 212.

My rights are being infringed upon as a non UK investor.

It is clear that $GAXY meet the regulatory standards and regulations regarding their OTC standing.

Yet 212 are banning us and forcing us into a position to sell because their third party supplier who funds them cannot and won’t be responsible for payouts once GAXY hits a dollar.

This is the same time robinhood and various other brokers did with GME et al.

I still haven’t got a reply to my penny stock exempt GBTC and why I can’t trade BTCE.

1 Like

Hang on a second. Just to be very clear:

  1. Penny stock exemption is what you want it to be.
  2. It’s 100% not doing down because of the status changing from PSE to no longer having that status.

You can’t blame a T212 for chasing a pump and dump stock, and being caught in the dump.

2 Likes

They aren’t being infringed, it’s their platform.

Whilst atm I think they made the mistake in adding them, I can’t see what right means they now are obligated to maintain them.

It isn’t clear, well not to me. Looking at the Q10 they definitely wouldn’t have had the PSE before Tues (16 Feb), and I don’t actually think they even have it now. :thinking:

Everything about this sentence isn’t correct, that’s not how stonks work.

You can’t buy due to FCA rules coming into play 6 Jan. Whilst it affects UK retail customers they have decided to apply to the platform for everyone. They can do that, it’s their platform.

1 Like

I’m a non UK investor FCA ruling does not apply to me and several million other clients Phil.

Apologies if I’m sounding harsh. I fully understand you aren’t a UK customer. They have decided to apply to everyone, that’s their prerogative. Because it’s possible for non-UK customers to still buy it doesn’t mean they have to find a way to support that. It’s their platform, their game.

Yeah it does, you’re on an FCA regulated platform, but full marks, all wrong - quite impressive.

Hope you can now see why you get flagged so much, you’re a bit like Stock Donald.

4 Likes

That’s not what’s in question. Their penny stock exempt status is what’s in question and I for one can’t see how their CFO thinks they meet that. But I could be wrong here so if you know more then please share.

1 Like

According to OTC regulations they meet same I just don’t know how if the case that $GAXY did not meet PSE how trading 212 allowed us to trade a fraudulent stock then.

Someone at 212 pressed the wrong button in all honesty if 212 staff doesn’t like reading my posts then they should in essence close the community forum akin to closing the in chat option several weeks ago.
@ryan9921

It’s not a fraudulent stock. It’s just one that doesn’t meet minimum requirements. Something has definitely gone awry here but not everything has to be a big conspiracy or whatever. Is it not feasible that the data being fed to IBKR was wrong or the data being fed to T212 was wrong and that a stock has been listed incorrectly as PSE when it wasn’t supposed to be?

Brokers make errors all the time, 212 comes under more scrutiny because there’s millions of us looking at this stuff and spotting it, it doesn’t make them any worse than the others, just that we are more vocal (and public) because of the increased variety of communication channels.

Millions of us AND @phildawson… Who I wouldn’t let in my house even if he was my best mate as he’d spot all the cracks.

3 Likes

According to the CFO that now thinks as of 16 Feb 2021 they should now be recognised as PSE. (I don’t think they are right and its not just because their professional photo is taken inside their car)

Just to be clear:

It’s absolutely nothing about fraud at all. No conspiracies, no manipulation. The stock dumped before T212 announced close-mode because its just a P&D play. Its a Reddit stonk.

It’s like an apple with a sticker on it, it’s still an apple with or without the sticker.

Only in this case I don’t think the apple had a sticker on it before when it was added to the platform, and I don’t think it has a sticker on as of 16 Feb either.

From my understanding, T212 don’t want because the apples without stickers come with extra regulations, so they have just spotted and gone hm we don’t want those and are giving them back. They can do that.

Staff don’t flag posts, if they wanted them gone they would unlist them. Its the community as in other T212 customers that flag. T212 then have to decide if the community was correct in flagging and ask to update or delete if it breaks the community guidelines, or restore if it doesn’t warrant changing.

1 Like

Thank you @phildawson for your detailed reply.

I did also note the photo inside of car too.

So going forward will the particular instrument/ stock be removed from 212?

I’m heavily invested in same.

1 Like

They won’t remove it. Only won’t allow buying until they get the PSE status back.

2 Likes

Well I assume either two scenarios

A

T212 continue to keep them in close-only mode so they can only be sold. Once everyone has sold it then gets removed.

B

T212 starts jumping through the hoops required to provide them on their platform and the buy button comes back.

I think A is more likely.


I still can’t establish if this is IB (Interactive Brokers) who T212 piggyback are actually forcing this close only.

As you can see if IB says close-only it means T212 are close-only.

Its the same reason T212 have no say in GME/AMC saga etc they are just piggybacking. It’s literally out of their hands.

It’s also the reason that when someone requests a new stock, T212 can’t add it to their database until IB have it available.

But what I think happened is someone requested GAXY and a couple of other OTC stocks.

A T212 staff member should have checked are they PSE, because T212 have taken a policy that they don’t want to get involved with stocks with high regulatory baggage.

They got added to the platform, and now a month or so later they have clocked that they shouldn’t have been added.

Instead of admitting it was a mistake (a bit like the NIO and ISA) they seemed to have created a narrative that the stocks were PSE and are no longer PSE.

I know 100% especially with GAXY that it was not PSE (at least not marked on otcmarkets.com), I screengrabbed at the time, I wrote about it in the forums, I made contact with staff to say it should have been added its a mistake.

Everyone reading this, take it as my interpretation of events and not as gospel until proven