All Things ARK + Requests

The other ark funds canā€™t be added because they are not UCITS compliant. I think there will be a long wait for Ark innovation. There seems to be difficulty in adding US etfs. The WCLD etf has been requested for several months now.

Thanks for the reply Nick, Iā€™ll have to invest through a different company in that case, at least in the short term

Which company are you going to use to invest in ARK?

Iā€™ve tried through Fidelity & Degiro but to no availā€¦ I assume the same issues as quoted above

Do you fully understand what the issue is?

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Unfortunately not, Iā€™m hoping an admin may be able to enlighten us

ARK (so far) refuse to comply with EU law. Thus itā€™s illegal to sell their products in the EU (with some caveats).

We donā€™t need an admin, Iā€™m suggesting you become familiar with the products and assets you want to invest in. A lot of people ā€˜going in blindā€™ at the minute and thatā€™s bloody dangerous if you donā€™t understand what youā€™re getting into.

UCITS is specific to Europe and so applies to European mutual funds and securities. If an ETF is not UCITS compliant it canā€™t be marketed and/or sold here.

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Itā€™s seems complicated for US funds that are UCITS compliant. Both WCLD and Ark innovation say they are compliant:

Iā€™m really not sure what makes it complicated. But weā€™ll just have to be patient.

Unpopular opinion: Hopefully with Brexit, once we are free to make our own laws again we can make some deals with the US. But then again, UK is probably more of a nanny state than the EU. So who knows.

WCLD wonā€™t be an issue. Thatā€™s fine. Can be traded in Europe.

No ARK funds currently produce the European mandatory KIID.

Thatā€™s your issue.

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There is one, I seem to remember it was the Ark Innovation one, that did produce KIIDs if you accessed it through an intermediary, but that was quite expensive.

Here is the link:
https://community.trading212.com/t/igv-igm-arkk-and-arkw/4698/8?u=equityinvestor

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I could be wrong. But I thought that having a kiid is requirement of being a ucits compliant fund.

Nope. You can UCITS but not kiids.

Kiids are mandated by mifid and priips regs not UCITS

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Super interesting. Nice find. But thatā€™s not gonna fly as a KIID as far as I can see

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If you access Ark Innovation through Nikko, it does have a KIID.

See the post I linked earlier.

Edit: @Finky, why does that not qualify?

You mean the one headed ā€˜PRESS RELEASEā€™ ?

Or am I missing another link to a KIID?

https://www.centralbank.ie/regulation/industry-market-sectors/funds/ucits

I stand corrected
In which case ARK are presumably wrong about their status as UCITS compliant or they are failing in their obligation to create a KIID
Super weird

I think this is it :slight_smile:.

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This also looks super weird. Wth is a sub fund.