@Dougal1984 haha nice sales talk - im sure plenty of people fall for it…
props to you though for drumming up business, there are going to be plent of naive on here.
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@JayCais3 once again to confirm I do not work for TMF. If it helps you decide, read my post what 7/8 posts above that says I signed up and cancelled as I hated the level of advertisements through a paid service.
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Stock Gumshoe has some good stuff also falcon stocks
That is and isn’t true. You’re talking about an ACTIVELY managed fund/trust, so the holdings are changing all the time. So whilst you’re right that when you buy in you have missed the start point on the current holdings, from that point on you’ll be on board from the start of every new addition to the portfolio.
Eg. Baillie Gifford added KE Holdings, Carvana and Vir Biotechnology to SMT in just the last two months. So you would benefit from all of their growth from the off. They got in right before Carvana had that massive recent jump, and KE has been steadily gaining since its IPO.
Regarding Motley, I wouldn’t pay for that kind of service when enough can be dug up just by doing your own research. That can be as little as following the individual Motley guys on Twitter. I found a blog post of theirs that touted their ‘if I had to pick one stock for growth in 2020’ and bought it… It was Yext. Go look up that chart this year. I made about 50 quid on it in the last pre ER rally and dumped. Poor shout although possibly one for the 5yr timeline they advise. We’ll see.
In the meantime my own picks of NIO, APPS and BEKE are all doing very well and at a much faster rate.
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Yeah I like the look of SMT and have a few BG funds already that have done well. The only thing that caught my eye was a material exposure to Tesla in the fund.
Hi fellow 212ers
Watch this video from 0.47 - 1.05
This is how this motley scam works in principal.
@JayCais3 Still can’t figure if this is fake …
Your post makes no sense Jay, and suggest that the product is sold by being over hyped and fake user reviews to push the service.
Perhaps this is true, but I would be interested in the actual facts rather than say so to determine the real value.
The way to truly analyse and value any stock pick service I think would be to independently check if you followed their recommendations and held each for both say a minimum of 3-5 years to current day, and compare against an appropriate index. That data would better act as a basis of confirming if it or any recommendation service is of value or not. It would be similar for people that recommend bets on the football or horses. Over time do their picks generate you positive returns when followed, of so then there is some added value.
Back to the point, I prefer facts, and I haven’t been able to find a historic list of securities/recommendation dates so that I could independently check the stock advisor returns for myself.
I’m not sure either Libreus. It’s not necessarily fake, but it’s not quite an independent review either.
How many stock picks have not returned a reasonable rate of return, and rather than state x stocks have returned 50% or more - some ETF’s in the IT sector have returned on average 20-30% over the past 5 years, so it’s missing an appropriate benchmark I think for the stock picks.
That being said, using a generic US all share type benchmark given most the picks are US companies is not that unreasonable, if their picks are truly industry agnostic would be good to see.
That scam is very obvious.
Those who could fall into those scammers should never get anywhere near in investing world in the first instance. Let alone when the blockchain, bit coin get involved.
I’m curious to how the scam is obvious. It is definitely not an independent review as its written to push you to click on their reseller link for commission. As far as the numbers go, I don’t have the date to determine if it represents a complete picture, or is factual or not. Its certainly not an article that I would base any decisions on.
I personally would not pay for a stock advisor. I completely understand the appeal (esp for those whom do not have time to their own research) but as a rule; I only invest in things that I am interested in and have good knowledge about. For me, brokers promote too much diversification in stocks (which covers their backs as well as yours). I feel uneasy about making investments in sectors that I do not have knowledge of. But of course, each to their own!
So to answer your question, I say, do your own homework and invest in stocks that you believe to be the future. Its commission free…
[Dougal1984]
You could see the motive he mentions on MANY you tube channel in investing. There is one people recomending it and suddenly in that threat another 10+ people will testify. In many cases if you investigate it those who provide that testimony have a very poor posting histories.
I find trading view to be a marvellous place
Stumbled upon this today 
And finally, don’t pay too much attention to financial advisors. If they’re so smart, why aren’t they all rich?
Joshua Rogers: “It is an acknowledged fact in the trade that at least 75% of professional financial advisors are cobblers whose children have no shoes. Wall Street is the only place where people driving a Toyota Camry advise people with Bentleys on how to manage their money.”
Hi, would you like to share an account? I am also interested in subscribing but cannot decide yet.
Not sure that’s technically allowed, but would be interesting to see what their picks are, and reasons behind it.
Well… I’ve been using MF for over 10 years and I’m massively successful following their advice.
TMF is split in 2 parts: The free site where some nobody free lancers write silly articles so to create traffic. The paid site where you get some amazing amazing picks.
Once you access the premium service you can see their picks since inception and the % they’re gaining/losing. As I said I’ve been with them 10 years and have been tracking them since. Normally when I renew the subscription I make up for the cost of it in less than a week.
If I can give any advice do buy the US services, they are way more profitable than the UK ones.
I don’t work and I am not associated with TMF, I’m just a person that got amazing returns for my quid.
If you could not find a list of recommendation dates then you have not accessed the site - the historical is available once you pay the service.
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Do you buy every recommendation and hold indefinitely?
Have not read the whole thread here … but regarding the topic heading:
No, and never will.
They have a product to push and will sell it as such.
It’s too easy for successes to be attributed to their advice in a 10 year bull run.
I’d rather make an informed choice and be wrong than blindly take the choice someone else is pushing me and be right. If you want a lazy approach to investing, pick an ETF selection and cut out the middle man.
Are people investing under the guise of gambling? I’d argue yes.
Does that matter? No - but just be aware of your choices.
Taking stock advice from an advisor just reminds me of the shady emails for pump’n’dump penny stocks. How the hell can I trust them without doing massive DD? No thanks 