Appreciate your explanation. Will be waiting for your answer
out of the ETP, how can the performance on a single stock can be so different from one data source to another.
Any update on what happened on Friday?
guess they have no answers now
Hi guys,
For now I can see that there is a difference on the RR price on Bloomberg and T212.
Also that the official closings and the prices reported by the LSE seem different which can be confusing. But I do not have yet the full view to answer properly.
Be sure that I will come back to you here when it will be clear on what happened friday and monday.
Thanks for updating us Marc. Looking forward to find out what exactly happened and how it will be rectified if indeed there is a need for it.
Thanks a lot for your patience.
As you may remember on my previous messages, I noticed some price difference between Investing.com and Trading212. I got the confirmation that it was a data issue. The official price levels shown on Bloomberg was incorrect (not only for the ETPs, but also for several ETFs and Stocks) which unfortunately seems to affect a lot of data vendors that many brokers are using.
This may have affected the prices that were displayed on the platforms but not the value of the ETPs.
Please find below the official valuation per ETP at the market close for Friday and Monday, including the RR price and performance.
We are in touch with Bloomberg to ensure this will be solved if it is not yet done.
Additionally and aside the data error, investors need to keep in mind the time period for which the exposure applies. This time period will typically be stated in the name of the product and described in the product factsheet and prospectus. In our case is a daily ETP.
Due to the effects of compounding and leverage, the returns for short and leveraged ETPs held for longer than this period can differ from a similar leveraged benchmark. The returns of the underlying index should not be multiplied by the short/leverage factor as a means of estimating the ETP return over longer time periods.
So, if you keep a Leveraged ETP for more than one day, you are subject to the compounding impact.
Which may affect the ETP performance during volatility period like Friday.
More explanation about the Compounding impact can be found here:
Thank You Marc appreciate your explanation.
We received also many emails of people keeping open a trade on Leverage ETP and doesn’t understand the compounding impact. RR in march is a great example of the compounding impact.
Here is the daily performance of RR,
and the daily performance of 3LRR for the full month of march
As you can see, the daily performance between RR and 3LRR are correct on a daily basis (see the benchmark 3x)
If you take the 1st day and last day of the month for RR price, it is more or less back to the same price (98.23 vs 98.38 ; +0.15%). But, due to the compounding, 3LRR did not come back to the price of 2nd of march (0.0032476 vs 0.002786 ; -14.22%).
Hi
I have some investment on Nio Long. Couple of months ago when nio main instrument was around $24 3x long nio’s price was over $0.250 but right now at the same price nio long price is only 0.135. Why is there a huge price difference? Could you pls explain how it works thanks
The longer you hold the leveraged position in the red, the less leverage you get over time due to the compounding effect of the percent being reset on a daily basis. Thats why its advised not to hold for long periods, and why you cant judge performance based on past chart comparisons.
@MaxZorin you were faster than me to reply and you are 100% right.
This is exactly the same I explained with the tabs for RR/3LRR
Is it same other way round too i mean when a stock is in green for a longer period leverage shares percent changes and price grow higher than normal
right !
Like this picture shows
Seems to have caught up now.
What happens over Bank holiday. UK closed Monday and US open does the price catch up from Thursdays close price of is it daily from Tuesday onwards?