I saw a video where one man said he takes some profit back to make a living or just be on the safe side so to speak.
For example: if say you made Ā£1000 profit, he would take something like Ā£700 back and spend it on himself like buying that so and so he wanted and re-invest the Ā£300 left.
He was saying he has seen it where his shares have risen to a good amount and made a nice profit, a few days later they have plummeted and he has lost that nice profit.
Iāve read posts on here where others have said that very sae thing, I know some will say it is knowing when to sell or take the profit but we all donāt have that crystal ball so is it wise to play safe and gamble on taking some of that profit back before you lose it all?
Hi Phil,
So that is what Iām saying, it is knowing the market, (that comes with experience) and the risk appetite is like do you gamble on it keeping that upward turn or play safe?
If you want a no fuss approach, set a pie invest a regular amount and check it in 5, 10, 20 years etc
If you want to maximize and get involved, learn to read charts and see when the price is well above the moving averages and over sold on the daily RSI then probably a sign to sell and wait for a pullback, before chucking it back in. Obviously it could move higher if you get it wrong so you need to take that decision to keep to the plan, or walk away.
Can I just say Iām not after causing an argument I was just asking what people thought.
The reason I asked is I am now wondering if Iām in the right game at my age and with what little money I have.
Iām not investing large amounts because I canāt afford it, I am showing a profit in my investments but it is nothing to write home about it is only a few Ā£ās.
I feel Iām wasting my time with this, I should have started many years ago, may be then I might feel different.
Iāve read posts where some are saying they have Ā£1000ās of pounds to invest, wow! I wish I had that in my bank in the first place, Iām not knocking those that have that kind of money to invest I wish them lots of luck, I havenāt so like I said, I may be in the wrong game here.
Split your investments and decide how much risk you want. As you are young you have time on your side to play higher risk but it doesnāt mean to have to. You could pick a few blue chip like AAPL and be pretty safe in knowing in 5, 10 etc years itāll most likely be nicely in profit.
You could always have fun with a smaller portion on penny stocks etc where you attempt to swing trade in a week or so. But be prepared to lose before you understand whatās going on. The odds are stacked without knowledge, so itāll be lucky dip in timing and succeeding.
I find it satisfying getting 50% return in a week than waiting years. But itās easy to lose it all, if you are just chucking it in all in
Iāve found you can go through lots of cash learning how to day and swing trade. Always best to use the practice (only playing with the same as you have in real life) but you need to have real money on the line to actually learn Iāve found.
Hi Phil,
Yes I do use the practice and I also use it like it was my real money, it is tempting not to sometimes.
I have in the past started over again on another system, sometimes it looks like it is working other times I abandon and start another tactic, but it is safe in there I know and it is interesting a kind of fun too.
Iām 72 and waiting 5 years or more at my age can be a long time, like I said above I should have done this years ago.
Ha Ha, at 18 I was a rocker, motorcycles and girls, rock and roll etc.
I had spent my wages by the middle of the week, newspapers like the Financial times were good for starting to light the fire in the mornings lol, reading that was all gobaldy gook then.
See this legendary post from a few months ago. Iām a big proponent of doing exactly as you suggest, taking profit when my positions rise a significant amount. Iāll usually keep some for myself and reinvest some.
Another user, @pipo, was on a witch hunt trying to have me shot for holding this opinion.
Hi Ciaran,
I once saw a video about a year ago when I first thought of investing, there were some of guy who had made it rich in a few months, I tend to ignore those.
There was one who said when he started he made a few pounds and as time went on he got better at investing and his money grew.
At first he was just dabbling at it so to speak but then he started to get more serious, after a time he did as you said, he started to take some of the profit, he then said he was then making a living out of it rather than just the odd spend on a luxury.
But go for pharamcy stocks. More specificly penny stocks.
This is going to be a bit more āriskyā but the reward is greater and āfasterā.
Look for pharmacy stocks that are (About) to get there medicin / drug FDA approved. Keep a eye on the news for that specific stock. If the drug does get FDA approved, penny stocks usally explode 25% to 75% on market open.
If the drug docent get FDA approved i would just leave it, dont risk shorting it.
But again, this is way against the way i invest (long term). But i do know people personally that make a fat living of penny stock trading.
I just reading about the use of Cannabis in medicine, not knowing the political stance on it, seems like since Biden is President elect things have changed and the share prices are starting to rise, is this what you are meaning?
@obrienciaran told me it was 100% impossible for compounding to happen unless you constantly sell and reinvest, because āunrealized gains donāt mean shitā. - Direct quote from him in a conversation we had.
This is what my legendary thread above was about.
He also told me trading 212 would go bankrupt if stocks could make compounding returns. I asked him in that thread to explain how this brankruptcy would happen but he never did.
This is also my approach. The goal now is to pay for my luxuries (newspapers, eating out, gym, Netflix etc.) from investing and go from there. If there comes a point I can eventually not touch my salary, so be it, but thatās down the line. Iād be very wary like yourself of people pushing the āget rich quickā idea - but also curious as to their techniques - there could be something to pull from itā¦
Explained multiple times in that thread. Classic @pipo all over again. Essentially it boils down to youāre not making gains on your gains until they are realised.
Say you have 100 dollars. You gain 100% and it becomes 200 dollars. It gains another 100% (total now of 200%), what does the figure on the app say your total portfolio value is now? 400 dollars? 300 dollars?..
But yes, unrealized gains donāt mean shit. Until the money is in my bank account, itās just numbers on a screen.
Being totally honest I am approaching 40, and I think I have left it a little late to start āinvestingā for my future.
At your age (72) I would not be playing the stock market with as you say, limited funds and the fact you are new to it.
Spend the cash you have spare on yourself, or if you are intent on staying in youād have to play a much more riskier game to make gains to make a difference to your life at this point surely?
Back to your question, and your timeframe available, I would be taking at least 50% of my substantial gains out to spend on myself at your point in life.
Obviously the above is just my opinion and I am in no real position to offer advice, as I am new to trading also. However I personally would only be risking spare cash at that age and having some fun and hopefully some rewards, I would not be not relying on it for anything substsanitial and would be spending those gains incase the market or that stock crashes.
I wish you all the luck in the world whatever you decide
Thanks Scott,
That is what Iām thinking, this is touching on the subject but a bit different, the other day I had a go on an online bingo my daughter plays on from time to time.
I only put Ā£5 in my account, I played a few 10p games, after I played about 6-7 games I won Ā£30.
i played a few more 10p games then I thought, I could keep going here and win more or take the Ā£30 , so I did and transferred it to my bank, I kept the rest in to play.
I got down to Ā£1.40 so I left that in my account and clicked off the site, I could see though how it could be addictive, you win a bit and try for more.
