All Things ARK + Requests

This is interesting work. Have you actually bought any of these pies yourself? It would be interesting if you could report back to us on performance of these pies (which cover a subset of the contents of the ARK funds) compared to the actual ARK funds.

I have done my own experiment with a ā€œIITU inspiredā€ pie. I matched the contents of this iShares IITU ETF. However, I omitted the two largest holdings of APPL and MSFT, as I already own plenty of those. Interestingly, my pie is underperforming IITU - which tells me that IITU’s performance is mainly driven by APPL and MSFT. Only the AMD part of the pie is doing better.

I have indeed, I set them up a few weeks ago and have been putting small amounts in regularly. Currently my pots are:

ARKF: +7.54%
ARKK: +17.44%
ARKG: +13.78%
ARKW: +12.04%

Autoinvest projections based on the last 5 years:

ARKF: +58.57%
ARKK: +37.59%
ARKG: +29.96%
ARKW: +49.92%

I’ll keep an eye on these over time and how they track the main ARK ETFs, I’m hoping that Trading212 is able to add more of these stocks relatively quickly to get a good cross section. There’s definitely more stocks in their Next Gen Internet fund compared to Genomics so I suspect some will take longer than others.

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How are you’re pies doing? Thinking of doing this myself.
And do you update the spreadsheets on a regular basis? Then i know if I should check it haha.

Okay last question, how do you check what holdings Ark changes?

They’re doing well, up between 1 and 10% at the moment with ARKK, ARKF and ARKW performing best. I’m updating the spreadsheet every friday with new stocks/fractionals added by 212 and then every Monday or Tuesday with the latest data from ARK. They have a CSV on their website of all their holdings that you can download, they also send out a daily email with all their trading activity.

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Forgot to mention I hacked at this over the weekend and automated it so you can see a live view of the stocks in each ark fund versus where they are tradeable… not made it public yet as it’s super server intensive! Looks something like this… and is generated every time you call it…so it captures all changes made in each portfolio… Shows whether it’s (F)ractional or (W)hole share trading too

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Can you give a idea of how often Ark changes holdings?
And do you find it personally manageable?

Because im also gonna start a Ark etf pie and im debating how many Ark etf’s im going to recreate.
(sorry for the weird English)

It changes daily, in terms of manageability it depends how accurate you want the pie to be. My currently flow means it only updates weekly but is more than manageable for me :slight_smile:

If you use T212 you’ll have to account for the stock held by Ark that are not currently traded on T212. Just rebalance to 100 without them. So you’ll never be ā€œthatā€ accurate. But close. You can see even on my minimal screenshot T212 don’t have Proto or Kratos… and Deere is whole shares only currently…and quite a few others too. You can plug the gap by getting an account with Stake… all stocks on that platform are fractional but you don’t have the option to create a ā€œpieā€ā€¦ so 50/50 the approach you take

Does trading212 have a csv or some kind of data sheet of stocks they have and if they’re fractional?

Data sheet - no, but I make one that automatically tracks new stocks etc (non publicly available yet… email me if you want a csv dump)

T212 does show you fractional stocks though… by the little F symbol in the app (I think, but not on desktop)

Thanks. does your csv show if they are fractional (sorry that’s what I meant)

Yep , of course it does. Pies depend on it

it’s only about the weights, right?

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It’s an actively managed ETF so they change weights and add new positions daily, in my experience only 1 or 2 small holding positions actually get added or removed every 1-2 weeks.

So it’s what I thought… probably the weights are automatically calculated but eventually every 1-2 weeks they add/remove some small holdings.

To be honest I’m not interested in those very small positions, probably the top 20 holdings may change only every few months.

When i Set up the ARKK ā€˜pie’, i get an estimate of 30% a year instead of your 37%.

The weightings have changed since so they’ll differ, mine is 29.5 now

This doesn’t matter though as past performance indicates nothing about future performance :slight_smile:

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Ya i know. But i was afraid i messed something up haha

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You are so awesome

Would you help me how to set up ARKK to my account on T212 automatic instead manually?