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I’ve been aggressively DCA-ing from January and will keep doing it with in hope that in the next 10-15 years it will bring some nice returns.

SMT’s latest results here

Thanks, some nice light Sat’day morning reading!

I have got SMT in my shopping basket for now but its exposure to high euphoria over valued stocks like tesla and also exposure to high risky Chinese stocks is the reason am sitting on the side-lines.

If I’ve learnt any lesson from my Evraz is to be on the side of caution with some of these high risk countries - just my 2cents tho

I’m a DCA guy, so I personally don’t try to time the market, because if I’ve learned something in the last two years, is that the long time horizon is the way to go (the nerves are grateful). :relaxed:

We are currently in the bear market. Nasdaq composite was already in the bear market since March 2022 , S&P 500 was officially in the bear market last week.

In the bear market high growth stocks will be in the first line to face to swords. The S&P500 is mainly containing Blue Chips high quality stocks. If S&P500 already down 20%+, expect Fund/Trust containing high growth stocks such as SMT to fall much deeper. But When they recover they also recover faster and with multipliers.

There are research showing that during ā€œthe bear marketā€ DCA will normally beat Lump-sum,. Selective DCA e.g buying high quality stocks, fund in the red days or using indicators to identify overbought/Oversold might produce a better result.

SMT is a good example to see why DCA is better during ā€œthe bear marketā€. Imagine those who threw lump-sum money into SMT in the start of downtrend e.g November 2021 or early 2022. They might already see their fund down 50%+.

Since the growth sector is the first to be shot down, it will be also the first to wake up. The key question is … when? :blush:

EDIT: and because we’re almost at the pre-covid levels, I’m confident to escalate my investment in SMT.
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Frankly I would not be this optimistic about nasdaq(growth) , last time it went vertical (2000.) it took roughly 15 years for nasdaq to get to same levels.

We are not even near to 2018/2020 bottoms, so there is plenty of room to fall.

Not to mention, what if those levels don’t hold… :pleading_face:

Also true for 2000. Nasdaq droped 30%, to rebound 25% before the grand collapse.

We are now reaching those same levels, so we cannot rule out one last hurrah by growth. :slight_smile:

I partially agree, but it’s also true that nowadays the markets move a lot faster. Some changes/movements that in the past took more years, now happens in months/weeks/days. As long as one’s philosophy is oriented in the longer term (10+), I’d say DCA is the way to go. :nerd_face:

I just listened to this and thought others might be interested, James Anderson of BG discussing fund management

Pleased to see SpaceX joining the TOP 10 SMT holdings.

Interesting insight: Valuing private companies – our robust approach (July, 2022)

I soo much like SMT management style and strategy but it’s Chinese exposure is a big massive concern for me personally hence i will remain on the side line. My Evraz & Polymetal (Russian stocks) has thought me a bitter lesson. Am not discouraging anybody because i can still invest in SMT but i will need a far bigger upside than 2022 prices so far. I reckon it will take a recession or preferably conflict between China & Taiwan to bring down the share price to what am looking for, touch wood it doesn’t happen.

If you want more exposure to SpaceX check out - BG’s Schiehallion Fund:

It doesn’t have good liquidity from what I’ve experienced before and can take a couple of days for orders to go through.

Baillie Gifford looses 104.7 billions GBP in 2022 (YTD, until end June 2022):

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Thanks for sharing, @RLX. Interesting read, but I can’t shake the feeling about not being written objectively. It has a dismissive connotation and in some parts tries to isolate the events in the last year. Maybe it’s just me. :blush:

Besides their philosophy, I’m invested in SMT because of the fact, the partners put their money where their mouth is. It gives me solace.

Wholly owned by its roughly 50 partners, the firm has staked its future on the belief that it can spot the next big thing.

If I remember correctly, I felt a little disappointed with that article, because I were expecting some juice about the portfolio, investments, reasons about the last 1,5 year performance. Maybe because it’s Bloomberg, a financial media, talking about a financial company. :slight_smile:

I felt bored half way (maybe sooner) because it’s very generic and superficial, talk about a lot of things, but few about financial matters.

Anyone else noticed the redesigned page? Looks nice. :wink:

https://www.scottishmortgage.com/en/non-uk/non-uk-shareholders

Spotted that the other day, it does look good. The portfolio looks relatively unchanged since the last time I checked a few months back.

Guys, what are your recent thoughts on BG, especially SMT after the change of managers?
I’m still investing in SMT alongside S&P.

My thinking hasn’t really changed as it’s an investment I’ll hold for 30 years or more. I added a bunch in 2022 to bring my average price to just over Ā£8.

However, I have reined in exposure to BG over the past couple of years. SMT makes up about 15% of my portfolio, which I’d like to bring down to nearer 10%, so I won’t be adding to it for a while.