I noticed that there is a difference between graphic and table information. Result line (buy/sell) on the graphic charts showing one value, but the results in the table underneath another value:
the red dotted line showing the opening short position (19,20)
the green line showing the current position (19,22)
the table result showing 0,00 loss/profit
In this example, the difference between the graphic and the result is not so big - only 7€, but when the volatility is huge (usually at the opening of the session), sometimes the difference is more than 70€ - 100€
My questions are:
can you make the graphic chart and table result in real time synchronized? or
Can you tell me which indicator showing the current accurate result/position: A) the Line on the graphic chart or B) the Result in the table? That information is important when opening and closing positions.
I would say difference is due to your account being EUR and stock being USD thus the difference in profit is actually difference in FX rate when bought compared to current.
Thank you for your reply!
That would make sense if the difference was always about 10% (FX rate difference between EUR/USD), but the difference is sometimes 7€, and sometimes 100€ for the same stock and same number of shares. I noticed it depends on market volatility.
The chart and result always get synchronized after 2-5 seconds. One of the information is delayed, but I am not sure which one: the chart lines or result. and which one is showing correct current-accurate value.
hm… I am aware of the FX volatility 2-5%,
but I am experiencing 1500% difference volatility (from 7€ to over 100€ difference) which I believe is related to the stock market volatility. Still I am not sure about it.
if currently FX EUR/USD is 1.0944
then the current 7€ difference doesn’t feet in the FX difference calculation:
350 trip at 19.20 = 6720 USD
9,44% of 6720USD = 635$, which doesn’t match with the difference from the post above (7€)
it could be… that means some days during the day trading fx volatile 2% (cc 100€).
So, let’s wait for the confirmation from the trading212 representatives (@David / @Tony.V) . additional question to the already asked 2 above:
3. is the difference due to the FX and should we calculate all the time FX while trading?
Where you are trading a product denominated in a currency different from that in which you hold your account, fluctuations in the exchange rate affect your profit and loss.
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@global.nomad It is because of FX fluctuations.
350 quantity x $19.22 = $6,727 worth of shares. A mere 0.1% EURUSD move would mean an approximate 6.727 change in result.
@Vedran So sorry, Vedran, if I made you feel not trustworthy. It wasn’t my intention defiantly. I really do appreciate your active sharing of your knowledge and experience here on the forum.
@David Thank you for your response. I am aware of the FX calculation, but I truly believe this is not the matter in the problem I am trying to point out. In order to better explain I choose the stocks (Ryanair) listed in Euro currency - the same as my account. Here are two screenshots examples of the same stock- long position taken 3 seconds apart:
Long/Buy position opened for 2600 Ryanair shares @ 11,623 EUR
Current price at 13:34PM : 11,640 EUR
The Result displayed is: -31,20 EUR (but the result should be: (11,640 - 11,623) x 2600 = +44,20 EUR
the difference is -72,40 EUR
the second PrintScreen has been taken 3 seconds later for the same position:
Long/Buy position opened for 2600 Ryanair shares @ 11,623 EUR
Current price at 13:34PM : 11,595 EUR
The Result displayed is: +5,20 EUR (but the result should be: (11,595 - 11,623) x 2600 = -72,80 EUR
the difference is +78,00 EUR
so within 3 seconds the difference between the graphic and the result went from -72,4 EUR to +78 EUR, or total 150,4EUR
even if you calculate any FX, it can’t be 150€ within 3 secs, although the stock listed currency is EUR the same as my account currency.
and this happens all the time
the green line is Buy price line
(spread is between the red and the green line)
the dotted line is postilion opening line
since I opened the Buy position at 11,623 EUR
the red Sell line showing the current price for my position.
even the opening and current price are written the table below on the print screen, but the result is not corresponding to the graph and neither to the values of the opening and current price in the table.
By just observing the the print-screens, it doesn’t make sense:
on the first print screen the current price line is above the opening position, but the result was Negative -31,20EUR
on the second print screen 3 seconds later the current price dropped down below the opening price, but the result was Positive +5,20EUR
It doesn’t make sense that my profit is rising when the current price is falling, while having Long-Buy position
I agree on your screenshot, that it doesn’t make sense.
But I am just looking in depth during those minutes in chart. Seems rather volatile price range. Thus why I did screenshot which shows price from 11.61 to 11.67 in 1 minute.
Which is around 0.5% difference, thus my pointing on the total value of position and difference in 0.25-0.5% mark.
I am not saying that the current prices are not within the minute chart range. Sometimes the minute chart range goes up to 3-5%.
What I am saying from the very beginning is that the result is not corresponding to the current price values. I believe this is due to delay of the result or the current price and they are not real-time synchronized.
When the market is more volatile the difference between the current price and the result goes up to several hundred euros, that’s why I asked the questions:
can you make the graphic chart and table result in real time synchronized? or
Can you tell me which indicator showing the current accurate result/position: A) the Line on the graphic chart or B) the Result in the table? That information is important when opening and closing positions.
