Hello everyone, do we have any news regarding the SIPP? I think many users are eagerly awaiting its implementation. It would be fantastic since Iām a big fan of this platform. However, Iām currently contemplating a switch to Freetrade because they offer the convenience of managing both my investments and SIPP in one app. Integrating the SIPP feature would be a significant advantage. I strongly encourage you to explore the possibility of adding SIPP, even if it requires a small monthly fee.
I wouldāve preferred to welcome you to our Community with some good news, but unfortunately, there arenāt any updates regarding SIPP at the moment. Iāll be sure to let you know if anything comes up. However, for the time being, the feature is not at top of our priority list.
Welcome to the Community, nonetheless. I hope you like it around 
If you want my advice, donāt! I just switched to T212 because of their awful customer service, their total inability or unwillingness to listen to users or make any basic improvements, their total incompetence with regards to payment of dividends or financial transactions to or from other providers/banks. I ended up having to withdraw the money from my ISA and lose the tax wrapper because they were taking over three months to switch peoplesā accounts while continuing to charge the monthly fee for the product. The list goes on and on. I still keep an eye on their forum and complaints are legion!
I would also be potentially interested in a SIPP offering so I can understand the temptation but, having just escaped the clutches of FreeTrade, I would strongly advise against them.
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I know of what you speak! Pretty much the only reason I still use Freetrade is the Sipp. Itās a relatively decent value offering.
Sipps donāt seem to be high on T212ās priority list. I think this is a shame and such a missed opportunity ā after all, most people will have more in their pension than Isa, so T212 could boost its AUM significantly.
Hopefully T212 will blow the competition out of the water with a Sipp before too long.
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Hi,
Any plans for these in the future?
T212 would be me go to platform for both but canāt be right nowā¦
Welcome to the Community, @GDowsett19 
Unfortunately, there is nothing new to share when it comes to SIPP. Iāll let you know once there are any updates in the future 
Guys, please have a look into offering a SIPP, I think most of British customers would love to have this option even if there is a monthly charge for it.
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An interesting point on pensions, according to the FT summary of the announcements in the Autumn Statement:
It seems like the government will allow employees to ask their company to pay their pension contributions into the pension of the employeeās choice. It will also encourage people to have one single pension āpotā (and consolidate them).
This could be great news for SIPPs platforms and users!
It means users could consolidate their funds and also have employer contribute to it, and not to a random employer pension with a limited selection of product offers.
It could be great news for T212 also, if it started offering a SIPP 
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Hopefully this announcement increases the change of T212 developing one 
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Sources:
Autumn Statement 2023: What it means for your money (ft.com)
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How would 212 make the SIPP service profitable - introduce a platform fee? I would have thought people trade a lot less with SIPP than ISA/GIA in that the FX fee might not be sufficient to fund?
It is something IB support through an approved Administrator / Sub Account - but the fee structure is very different to GIA/ISA:
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That might have to be an option, yes.
Most pension providers have some kind of fee. As long as it is low, transparent and only applicable to the assets in the SIPP or users with a SIPP I think it could still tie in with the rest of the T212 platform offerings.
Also, being a āone stop shopā for all clients assets could be helpful overall.
Obviously it is up to T212 and what they think is best to develop for their platform and offerings and also what they think an adequate pricing strategy is.
It does not currently seem to be among the priority items for development and that is fair enough as it is up to them, but users can only hope that at some point they decide to look into it.
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I have seen UK brokers that had a third-party SIPP provider in their services stack (with an extra free for the SIPP users, probably to pay the SIPP provider and the broker at the same time).
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first post in ages feels like 
I was really excited for this. As someone who changes jobs every 2-3 years I got the extremely painful job of moving a WPP from an obscure ācorporateā provider. (Last one was capita pensions and I can create a solo topic about how intentionally bad they are to prevent people leaving, resulted in ombudsman interfering)
So back to topic, at the moment I work at one of those evil financial giants that has more power than most governments They employ 20K people just in UK (hint: they actually bought a company that used to have 20K people in UK few years ago) At lunch I was coincidentally sitting next to the HR guys, and we talked about this. They were horrified by the suggestion of 20K people choosing their own providers naturally. Their initial idea to prevent it was to disincentivise it by not offering additional company bonuses beyond legal minimums for those who choose a custom broker.
At the moment company matches and doubles pension contributions up to 12% meaning if you contribute 6% of your salary they will add 12% and a total of 18% will go into your pension pot, which is awesome. Legal minimum here is the company to match 3%, meaning if you contribute 6% again, they will match 3% and a total of 9% will go into your pot.
So I think even if they go ahead with this legislation itās unfortunately dead on arrival (for most companies)
people also have a lot more capital in their pensions by a factor of 12 on average (England/permanently employed/aged 30 and over)
also I wrote this ages ago (and people had an opportunity to use those pitchforks), I donāt really mind paying a fee as long as I get better service/execution/features etc.
Iāve used T212 since 2018 (except this year I stopped using it completely) and not much has improved since then. Especially this dodgy order execution (which can be another topic) which makes you smile when they say the platform is free.
@s.voltolini @GDowsett19 the 3rd reply on this topic 3-4 years ago is me (replying to the promise it will be ready in 6-12 months) neither sipp nor in-specie transfers are touched, so donāt hold your breath
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Yes, it definitely is. At least a year ago according to the forum :
Interesting points on companies disincentivising it:
If they did go for the bare minimum I wouldnāt consider using a different platform either as I would be missing out on the companyās additional contributions, hopefully they donāt go down that route of removing the additional contributions for people that switch from the default platform.
Lets see what happens.
Iāve been expressing my desire for a SIPP for quite some time now, and I must say that Trading 212 is truly impressive. The user interface is fantastic and incredibly user-friendly, the FX fee is the most affordable you can find, and the customer service is quite good. The only missing element for perfection is the absence of a SIPP account.
Given the recent changes, thereās a growing trend of individuals taking control of their pension investments, presenting a significant opportunity for Trading 212. I understand that this needs to be financially viable, and Iām willing to pay around Ā£10 per month for my SIPP account. Considering the competitive FX fee, it would still be more cost-effective than any other provider.
Currently, Iām managing my SIPP with Vanguard, but the limitation to ETFs is a drawback. Iām keen on having a platform where I can invest in specific stocks rather than just ETFs. Unfortunately, other options charge exorbitant fees, especially in terms of FX rates. Iāve considered Freetrade as an alternative, but their customer service is dreadful.
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I suspect costās the main barrier. Sippās tend to be Ā£120 a year minimum. Recouping that with T212ās model might be difficult.
Plus you have burdens in terms of offering drawdown, extra regulations etc.
This is one feature Iād pay more for though.
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Sort of on Topic, but I have previously invested in a Pension targeted fund (Vanguard Target Retirement 2050 Fund) not a SIPP, but the fund is optimised to mature in 2050, my target retirement year, however cannot see these finds on T212, are these likely to be added?
Welcome to the Community, @rhyswoos
Mutual funds are not something that we offer currently, as such funds are generally not traded on exchanges. Iāll let you know if something changes in the future 
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Hi Momchil,
Any updates regarding the SIPP? Please tell me something good is coming 
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Hey, @s.voltolini
We would like to provide SIPPs in the upcoming year, yet we canāt commit to a deadline. Iāll keep you posted on our progress
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Would it be zero platform fees? 
@Momchil.G