Baillie Gifford [discussion] šŸ“ƒ

Don’t you see that the political risk in China will always present a danger to their growth (greater than in western countries)?

Opposite to western countries, with more permissive and a laissez-faire approach (comparing to China), when the companies become to big, presenting an outside power that could change the status quo (political, economic, financial, shadow debt, financial stability, competition, information/data, leadership), the CCP will trim the potential growth like a bonsai tree, so the Chinese companies wouldn’t become too large/relevant. The CCP could influence their business strategy, change their leadership, restrain financing, condition their operations, force them to give their data to the Government and public institutions. The courts in China are aligned with the Government, there isn’t a separation of powers, the same with PBOC.

Sure, but there is always some form of risk. The positives outweigh this risk for me personally.

As for Baillie Gifford; there are far more knowledgeable folks working there than I. I’m assuming they are continuing to do their homework as well as having their private investment channels.

I don’t have massive Chinese exposure but the exposure I do have, I am happy with.

Yep, for high risk investments an outside and dedicated expert management is better. As they would have more knowledge and time to follow that kind of investments than the usual investor.

Does anyone have a clue what it is about the Edinburgh Worldwide trust from BG and why it has performed so ā– ā– ā– ā–  this year compared to some other funds?

It seems that BG sold out BABA shares and bought the 9988.hk one.

The only reason I see for such move is due to deslisting fears.

Source: Baillie Gifford Long Term Global Growth Fund Buys Alibaba Group Holding, Contemporary Amperex ...

Thanks for sharing, I am not a BG investor but respect and keep and eye on them, interesting they are still bullish on BABA but want to hold the HK shares.

Thanks, this is interesting as I hold Baillie Gifford’s long-term global growth fund. I’m glad to see them trim exposure to China a little by selling NTES, TAL and some BILI.

Just note they did then also buy some Bilibili too but the HK ones, just in case you missed that as article not laid out super clearly.

Got ya. Not too concerned about BILI but it’s good to see the other two cut adrift. I’m also glad they seem to be maintaining or adding to positions in the bigger Chinese names.

SMT :cry:

Are people still invested or have people started dumping due to bad results last year?

I’m still buying on these dips, hoping it turns around soon though.

If anything, the past six months have given me more confidence in SMT. It’s down about 4-5% for the period, which is not too bad considering its exposure to China through BABA, NIO, PDD etc and the wider rotation away from growth/tech. By comparison, ARKK’s down some 28% or so.

Blah blah blah… 5 year minimum… blah blah blah… cost averaging… blah blah blah… nothing’s changed… blah blah, oh you know what I’m saying! :wink:

Sometimes I think I should just liquidate and go $bomn + #smt those combined gives me all the diversification I really need. What stops me is the fomo on missing the next Tesla and not having enough exposure in SMT hence I double down on some of their positions - Ginko, Lilium etc and hold Palantir and Ionq :weary:

Yeah, similarly, the core of my portfolio’s simply SMT + VWRL. Ginkgo’s an interesting one: it’s now in SMT’s top 10 at about 3%, so BG must have a lot of confidence in its long-term prospects.

I don’t suppose this thread is gaining traction today based on Motley Fool’s todays article on SMT. My experience with Fool is to read their articles with a pinch of salt or learn the hard way like i did.

The next Tesla is Tesla.

The paid-for part’s meant to be decent, but the free stuff’s often clickbait. They churn out articles on SMT because it’s popular: one week the trust’s a ā€˜no-brainer buy’, the next it’s the opposite. :man_shrugging:

In a sense though, you can let the good folk at SMT find the next Tesla for you. I know they won’t be 100% all in, but you will have exposure.

The main reasons I hold and keep buying into SMT it is because of:

• Proven track record of outperforming the market most of the time.
• Possibility to get exposure to private equities.

Very true, or you can just keep an eye on the holdings for anything that stands out.

I really like SMT and love the fact they hold private companies - space x :heart_eyes: