Crowdcube invest

The most frustrating part is that there are some numbers just not available or able to be modelled, which is really disrupting my planning. If I can get even just some estimates then I can finely tune everything. Of course there will still be risk, there always is in everything in life and moreso in starting a business. I just need at least some vision on that in order to mitigate it as much as can be possible.

I may not even end up requiring external funding, itā€™s just one path Iā€™m considering from many.

Nothing wrong with boring + low risk = better returnsšŸ‘šŸ¾

Maybe not better, but more consistent and predictable for sure.


Hereā€™s the response to a Crowdcube secondary market

ā€œit was too hard, too many issues, canā€™t be bothered to deal with itā€


Crowdcube might be offering a company that pays out a company with a 2.5% yield, giving the opportunity to gain a huge yield on cost! Just letting you know, and be sure to fill out the express your interest form:


Will likely make a video for this

Something I just discovered, and have found odd for some time.

Apparently companies on CrowdCube can sign out of CubeX, meaning out with a funding round, you canā€™t buy nor sell your holding should you be willing to swap with another.

Also, should there not be a level of ā€˜transparencyā€™ on the CubeX market - what is potentially out there?

Bar the few successful crowd funds, we are potentially better off sticking with dedicated Trusts that specialise in private investments.

Yep, sometimes itā€™s better to KISS (Keep It Simple & Stupid). In this case, going with ITs.

Let us know when, I would be interested :smile:

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Update on my positions:

  1. Company A is IPOing soon
  2. Company B is entering liquidation

The joys of private companies

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Well done. Youā€™ll be able to claim further EIS relief.

My four investments are still going and no idea how they will do. Iā€™m hoping the secondary market opens.

Canā€™t get tax relief when you donā€™t pay taxes :sob:

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I think you can carry it forward. Donā€™t quote me in that but would check it out as you might be able to claim 60% back.

Edit:

For EIS, SEIS and SITR, you can either claim relief in:

  • the tax year you make the investment
  • the tax year before you make the investment - if you choose to treat some or all of the investment as being made in a previous year

Ref: Tax relief for investors using venture capital schemes - GOV.UK

Hopefully gains in the IPO cover your losses. My thoughts going forward that unless I have any strong conviction in a company, leave private investments to the experts (CHRY/MNTN).

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Agreed. I made those investments when I was younger, before I found Trading 212. Now I only invest if itā€™s a really great opportunity- but if not Iā€™d rather invest in stocks

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I love CrowdCube and view it at a similar risk as crypto.
I know Iā€™ll loose money at some point as seeding start ups is pretty unpredictable.
But I have a few rules that keep me in check.
Never more than Ā£200 in any one round.
Disruptive or clean tech only.
Most of my investments are up by 400% but only on paper.
I suppose it depends how risk adverse you are.

One of my investments is up something similar, but that is only based on a ā€˜theoretical valuationā€™ created by the company itself for the purposes of further crowdfunding. Theyā€™re currently burning 700k a month, so even with raising 20-30m in the past year and a bit, wonā€™t exactly last long at that rate.

Thatā€™s is true but they have to base the valuations on something theyā€™re not allowed to pluck figures from the air.
And I never worry about start up cash burn,it is always horrific but if they are making the noise needed to be noticed and the idea is not only good but unique then the following rounds will attract investors.
Most of the companyā€™s Iā€™ve seeded are onto the 2nd or 3rd raise,itā€™s just a case of having a bit of belief.

Companies Iā€™ve been part of a seeding round on CrowdCube.

https://pavegen.com/?ok

https://graphenecomposites.com/

And a couple of others but these are my favourites.
Normally an investor like me wouldnā€™t get anywhere near these companyā€™s without tens of thousands being offered.
I love how this platform supports the ideas and allows small investors the chance to get in on the ground floor to some truly amazing ideas.

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what are the specifics about Gravitricity?

I know there was a project a while back that introduced a gravity powered LED light that could be produced quickly and cheaply for use in 3rd world countries that donā€™t have widespread access to power. different group or the same perhaps?

It worked by adding a weight to the top link on a chain-drive that would slowly fall to the ground, all the while producing light for those inside the room. once it reached the bottom and the light used up any stored charge maintaining the light you could just re attach the weight at the top for more time of light generation or leave it to go dark.

Pretty much the same thing on a massive scale.
They plan on setting up above decommissioned mine shafts using a patented pulley system and 5-50t weights.
So itā€™s a gravity based energy storage system.
Far cheaper than batteries or even H2.
The prototype was built in Scotland but I think they have a lot of interest in South Africa.
Really one to watch as it could easily be attached to high rise towers in city centres ect.