In which countries T212 is available and what if moved abroad

Hi guys, I tried to find a full list of countries where is possible to open an account with you but I found different ones that are not all the same. Could you direct me to the correct and up to date one? Thanks

And for the T212 Team, if I moved abroad to a country in which you are present, is there a need to make a new account or I can communicate to you my new country and address, sign maybe a different T&C agreement if needed and keep using the same account? (I’m talking about Invest and Trading accounts, not the ISA of course. And scenarios both inside and outside EEA).

Thanks all in advance for the answers

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Hey @Francesco,

Our service is accessible worldwide, and you’ll be able to manage your account from every point of the world. You don’t need to create a new account, nor sign a new contract. Instead, you may reach our team, and we’ll update your residential address.

As of the list of the supported countries - there is quite a simple way to check this: go on our page, tap on the “Open account” button and select the country you’re interested in. You’ll see a notification in case the country is not supported by us.

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Thanks @Tony.V ! You gave me the best answer I could hope for! :slight_smile:

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I noticed a Reddit thread earlier claiming T212 support has replied to them that changing country is not possible, and they have to reopen a new account.

Is this a bogus claim or a misunderstanding?

@investor The short answer is: it depends, and of course that some exceptions may apply.
As an example: if a client plans to move to a country which we don’t support, then he’ll have to close his account.

It also matters if we’re referring to a permanent relocation (meaning that you’ll have to pay your taxes in the new country, which is changing our reporting towards the authorities) or just travelling.

In simple terms: if you move from an EU to EU country - there will be no problem at all. If you move from an EU to Non-EU country - then further documents might be required as the onboarding process differs in the different regions. The best approach here would be to reach us out, to provide us with more details about your plans and then we’ll let you know what the options are

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Yes, you also have to check about about taxes (w8ben) if you receive dividends. For example, the USA and UK have a treaty so you have to pay 15% tax instead of 30%. If you move to Croatia (also EU), there is no double tax treaty with the USA so you will have to pay 30% (withholding) in the USA and 12% in Croatia.

I don’t know how it goes in real life :wink:, for example, you move to Croatia, and you keep quiet about it. You can be a tourist in Croatia, t212 doesn’t know that. Ip address is also not proof of anything because you can use a VPN. But, of course, the law should be obeyed.

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I’m interested about the EU bits… How about UK -> EU? Is it allowed to update the residencial address and not having to close the account? And in case it is possible now, is that at risk depending on how Brexit continues to develop?

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@diegos Yes, it is possible, and you don’t have to close your account.

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So what happens if I have both Invest and ISA? Do I have to sell everything from my ISA and move the money to the invest account? (or even worse, do I have to close both invest and ISA??)

My understanding is that in general, once you’re not a UK tax resident you can keep your ISA but you’re not allowed to further contribute to it. It would be great if you could allow this.

@diegos You can keep the ISA, however, you can’t contribute further. See here.

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Cool, that was my understanding. Thanks for clarifying!

Thanks for the information. But I didn’t understand this part :flushed: What do you mean about “closing of the account?”. What is the next step after the closing of the account? Are you closing all my positions and transferring my money to my bank account in a Non-EU country? It’s interesting because I’m planning to move to any other tax-free country and be a tax resident there and sell my stocks to save tax.

That depends on many different factors, such as the country you’re planning to move to, whether they’re any local restrictions prohibiting you from using either of the products, etc.

An account closure may not be necessary at all.

Anyway, just contact us via email or the in-app live chat when it comes to it, and we’ll assist you every step of the way.

In the meantime, I’ve sent you a DM now to see if I can be of any more service. Please check your inbox :mailbox:

Hey guys, what about if you move from ireland to Australia for a few years. Technically i would be a resident in Australia for them years, can i change the account to an Australian T212 account?

Thsbks!

Our services are available in Australia. When you’re about to change your residency, reach us here and in the category section, select ‘Account verification’ → ‘Address change’.

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Ok great thank you! So i can change to Australia without having to close my UK account and then opening a new Australian account then?

Thanks!

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Just thought it might be worth noting (as this is the top result on google) that when you move from an EU country to the UK, you will be forced to sell all your stocks and your EU account will be closed. This happened to me recently and came as a surprise after reading in this thread that this shouldn’t be an issue.

I assume it’s only possible to move from UK to the EU without losing your account, but not the other way around…

It is possible to open a UK Trading 212 account after the EU one is closed, but it’s not possible to transfer shares to this account as they cannot exist at the same time.

Our CY and AU entities do not allow clients from countries outside their onboarding jurisdictions:

  • Under CY, it is not possible to onboard clients from outside the EEA + Switzerland.
  • Under AU, clients cannot be onboarded from outside Australia.

The situation is different under the UK entity, as we onboard clients from various countries. This is why address changes are possible without requiring account deactivation.

Hey there
I will like to ask you is it still possible to have the investment account and the ISA account open and move to EU without closing the account

Hey, @Lew :wave:

Nothing has changed since Tony’s reply - it is still possible to do this without closing your account.