Tesla/NIO/Nikola/SOLO

The reason you don’t understand how it is possible is because as you say ‘you don’t see why it is the largest car manufacturer by market capitalisation’. They make great EVs, yes, but their value is in clean energy storage, artificial intelligence and tech.

They will be leading the way in pay as you use cars, driverless taxis etc. Private vehicle ownership over the next few decades will decline more and more to the point that the idea we used spend 30, 40, 50k+ on owning a car will seem ridiculous. Tesla will be leading the way here with ride sharing and transportation tech/energy/AI.

Just to add - I don’t hold any investment in Tesla but this is the reality of the situation. They are positioned directionally correct from a business point of view for the long term.

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Don’t forget energy creation from solar roofs, which is the only good looking solar solution for roofs. They have so much potential, it’s only the beginning

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Another point… any big car manufacturer is at least 5 years behind Tesla in software development.
I saw they amateur error many many times as a software engineer, they thought that they can just open the wallet and pay to have the same level of software integration overnight, because they have much money… and now they have realised that it won’t happen and they are stuck on they legacy environment.

This is only about the car + software integration, besides AI and autonomous architecture.

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Nio is now being recognised by Wall Street, finally! It’s sales have surpassed Tesla for 2 consecutive months, they are a luxury brand, coming to Europe in the next 5 years and Tencent Holdings have just purchased millions of pounds worth of shares. They also have a new SUV that’s being tested by Mobileye (owned by Intel) and surpasses the automatic driving of Tesla. Also, you get more bang for your buck in buying Nio. The mid August forecast is $20-25. I get my information from Nio Shareholders Club on Facebook and DongXii on YouTube. Both very credible.

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Maybe it will be different with EVs, but I don’t really think Chinese cars sell very well in the west. Perhaps Nio will be the first to do it well, but nobody like Chinese cars currently. Obviously I’m a Tesla bull.

I disagree on the basis that these are luxury cars and most of their sales come from recommendations. They have very good reviews. Not long ago, Nio was under $4 per share and is now in the 15s. Its undervalued at present, whereas I think Tesla is overvalued. Each to their own.

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Maybe a little bit off topic but what are people thoughts about NIO price? How far it’ll go today, at the end of week? My personal bets are 16.5-17 today and about 20 till Friday? Anyone else would like to share ones share price target in the same manner? Purely for fun of course

up 15% and day has just started :open_mouth:

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Not as off topic as it seems lol. Price target will depend on your view of if it can/how much can it outpace the growth of Tesla:

Edit: Could theoretically double to keep pace with Tesla’s growth.

I would love to track KNDI at the same manner it’s raising maybe slower but consistently made request for it but I’m not expecting it to be added, team have other more important things to do. EV become hotter and hotter every day.

CFD account. Are there some limitations on NIO stock? Looks like I’m unable to buy more than 300?

@Team212 @David

Certainly tempted to get in with tesla. My understanding (I’ve been ETF investing only so dont really know much about fundamentals etc) is that the fundamentals aren’t the best …particularly they have negative income. But they do seem to be incredibly innovative. Hmmm lots of ppl very positive re investing with them on here. Any folk think they are a bad investment ???

Cheers

They’ve been profitable the past 3 quarters, and likely profitable this quarter too, making them likely to be included in the S&P 500 index, so looks like you will probably get exposure to them soon without needing to invest individually

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I (think I) agree with @CavanHaganInvesting – I wouldn’t go chasing it if I were you. I would stick to your strategy if it’s working for you and let Tesla come to you. Let your fund managers figure out how to get hold of Tesla shares. That’s what you pay them commission for! :slight_smile:

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To everyone so eager to invest in Tesla I would strongly recommend to read Intelligent Investor by Benjamin Graham…There you will see a very short sentence saying “how much”. That’s what you should all be thinking about instead of jumping on bandwagon :persevere:

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One things for sure, technically speaking, nothing goes up forever and there is a big retrace in TSLA coming.

Currently around 88 RSI, it will be a sharp fall. Anyone who is buying now is very unwise.

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What is the RSI for NIO?

Either way, the RSI does not always indicate a pull-back and when it does it does not have to be imminent nor a very big pull back. However I do agree that it has grown too quickly.

I have not invested in Tesla, therefore it could be nice if there was a pullback as it may leave an interesting share price to invest in :wink: .

Price is irrelevant. Markets are efficient. Amazon, Apple and Microsoft have all been called overvalued about a billion times each throughout it’s growth.

Tesla is still cheap.

I guess you never heard of '99 dot com crash… check Cisco price back then and now. Even after 20 years, people are still not breaking even. Price matters always. Just because everyone is buying it doesn’t mean you should too. I am staying the f away from Amazon and Tesla.