Only thing I am sorry about is buying only few shares of AVGO on March bottom.
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I am taking that in consideration, and for sure that it will not only go up, there will be dips underway, and maybe not so good earnings, but in general Tesla is way ahead with their electric vehicles and Tesla as a company is more that only cars, it is a technology company, with a very wide spectrum of things: https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-lifestyle-products-2018-8
Anyone started watching The Long Way UP ?
Electric motorbikes from Argentina to LA.
Iām shocked not more ppl are talking about electric motorbikes.
Iām 1 episode in so far, and all I can say is - those Electric Harley Davidsons look pretty cool.
This is simply not true all the other manufacturers are struggling to 1. Make an ev profitable and 2. Make a cheap to buy ev that competes with Tesla.
Its also worth reading other posts that explains that Tesla is around 10 companies rolled into 1, it is not just an automaker.
I agree with @Vedran the valuations are absolute madness but I canāt see why it would go down or stop going up! Despite all the indicators constantly saying it will!
For me I just want the profit, if its going up I want in end of story
If you treat Tesla like a corporation that does lots of different things, it becomes understandable why it is so hard to give it an accurate valuation. but the current market behaviour around it isnāt helping IMO.
Agreed but for the risk of not seeing those gains Iām going to be in it until I see something concrete that tells me to get out
I just had a though go through my mind, in regards to the EV market.
If a normal petrol station the average fill up time is only say 5mins per vehicle, and roughly 6-8 petrol/diesel pumps per forecourt, how the heck are people going to fare when everyone does jump onto the EV bandwagon?
If EV charge time is say - 30mins, there is surely going to be a backlog of vehicles waiting to be charged? Most motorway fuel stations the car area is privately owned, so you canāt stay longer than 2hours or face a hefty fine - so how are people supposed to queue up and charge in that allocated timeframe given our current infrastructure?
Even if power points are scattered here there n everywhere, we canāt get around the wait time of roughly 30mins+ per charge, I can see a lot of time wasted waiting and a ton of angry people.
Anyone have a valid answer to this that I may not have heard of?
You canāt fill up with petrol or diesel from home
I also donāt run out of petrol or diesel at home 
I think the current range of the top cars is enough, many of my friends have evs and I havenāt heard any complaints from them about the over 300 miles average ranges.
If your out of town the fast chargers at the service stations can charge 0-80% in around 20 minutes (less time than the queue for the toilets or food) so I think its pretty good currently. When your in your home town you just need to charge it every now and then around your remaining charge, I think the days of āfilling upā will be gone and you will just constantly top up when you need to.
Also if you read up on shell and bp the infrastructure is being implemented faster than you might think as the amount of diesel being used has dropped and continues to drop significantly
I prefer my Diesel, 3 min to full tank, runs 1000km on it. It never runs out of tank at home.
Unless business travels, I have it for 2-3 months on same tank. As I do most of my regular day to day via walk. Only 2 weekly groceries via car.
Would not buy EV unless I can charge in 3 min and have 1000km range. Price range 20k euro for hatchback size.
Have non of family/friends/known network that has EV or wants/can afford one.
Letās not pretend every Country is Norway.
In Norway everyone has an ev as the law was passed to remove ice in 2025.
If you only fill up once every 3 months then what an inconvenience it will be to have to charge your car once every 4 weeks.
Regardless of what we āwantā this is happening so get used to it.
500 mile ranges will be the norm from next year also
I currently also have a diesel Ā£20 per year to tax and 70mpg but it will soon be worthless.
Also @Vedran using a diesel for around town use is defeating the object of having a diesel, they take a lot longer to warm up than a petrol car and short journeys do more damage to the inlet manifold, valves, turbo and the (hopefully yours is) dpf system
Thatās because you have planned not to its the same in reverse with an ev.
so far private vehicles are chosen by a measure of convenience, affordability and practicality (for people who donāt buy things because of the brand prestige et cetera) for sure.
as charging points increase, and the cars are made easier for normal families to afford then I donāt see the need to become a second Norway.
20minutes isnāt bad, though it would seem so compared to the 3minutes it takes to fill up a gas tank, but if they can get that time down to 10minutes for 80% or even just 5 minutes for 50-60% then it would be rather convenient for most even if the range isnāt drastically improved at the same time.
I think I remember seeing an early article when EVs were first being discussed that mentioned the vehicles back then had a really short range and no boost-speed charging so it would take a few hours by mains. certainly have come pretty far since then thankfully.
The appeal of an ICE vehicle for me is the sound of the engine, so I would hope they keep simulating them in eVersions of new car models like the eMustang et cetera.
Well I bought it for Business travels, yearly I run about 35k. I cannot run Zagreb > Prague which is 700km on single charge, can I?
Well I personally donāt see EV as City Green alternative. City Green alternative are Bike/Car pooling/Public transport. But hey, if folks like to spend extra for āgreenā or "prestige " who am I to judge them. 
I go buy most bang for buck. Which EV definitely is not currently. Maybe 5-10 years down the road. We will seeā¦
Just because a diesel emits a low amount of emissions around town doesnāt take into account the vast amounts it will dump whilst regeneration on dual carriageways or motorways.
Evs produce zero apart from manufacturing and as the manufacturing plants arenāt inside the city centres the emissions levels in towns and cities will reduce significantly.
Car pooling is not green its just taking a car off of the road.
Public transport is all turning electric anyway so no real argument there.
Cycling has practicality issues
Wonāt be dragged into another pointless discussion about EVs
I have different view. Will buy ICE as long as its cheaper option.
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Sorry @Vedran but as facts and figures are your strong point and a rule you like to follow you will have to redesign your fill up maths against mileage.
If you fill up once every 2 to 3 months and can do 1000 km on one fill up how are you doing 35k a year? That would mean an average of almost 3k a month and a fill up every 1.5 weeks?
Also if your doing 35k per year an ev will save you a fortune in fuel costs
Tank lasts 3 months for City life aka groceries / shopping. I work from home, have office 15min walk.
Point is, donāt drive much.
I do 35k of which 30k is business aka paid for work. Which is mostly 700km trip in one direction.
I donāt mix business with private.