Tesla price racing to reach Mars before SpaceX

I’m sure all the people up over $500 a share completely agree. No really i do

Money in the bank is the biggest gamble of all right now, no interest and risk of annual maintenance charges anything else managed correctly is just being speculative. As long as your happy with your investments the risk is negligible.
Unfortunately I’ve owned and managed many businesses in my time and still do I’m used to taking calculated risks but I’m afraid buying into the Chinese car market based on World dominance is just not for me, you know based on the fundamentals

Dumbest comment you’ve posted so far.
No doubt you’ve managed many businesses… as a sole trader shutting down after a year or so for bad management :+1:

All limited companies or i wouldn’t be able to shut down without taking the debt with me, dumbass.
Go back to school

Right you lot :joy: PM if you wanna talk smack to each other
Slowmode on, so you can think before you speak

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I’m not a teacher but this one needs a lesson or 2

Yeah, yeah, whatever. Just don’t pretend to manage risk when you’re throwing all your money at one speculative stock.

All my money! Your having a laugh! I use spare money i don’t risk any of my ā€œassetsā€ to trade.
You don’t know me? Why make stupid assumptions, I have money in over 20 companies on t212 not just with tesla. Like most people on here we split the risk and hope for the best.

Yes actually I do. You are a funny character. Completely irrational, big on sophism (argument from authority), full of himself (ā€œgo fill your piss pistol , kidā€). Its entertaining :slight_smile:

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Don’t assume your talking to peasants, there are a lot of very wealthy people on this forum. Show a bit of respect for things you obviously know nothing about.

time to cool off people, sheesh :rofl:

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ā€œShow respectā€??? So you respect people based on their wallet size?

Congrats, you disgust me

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@TheFeynmanEmulator someone saying I have probably been a sole trader of several failed companies is not being respectful at all, I am merely saying suggesting things about people you don’t know anything about is not right. I have been in dire poverty so don’t preach to me please about who to show respect to. The respect part was broad and not directed at a level of monetary value. Saying we have ā€œall our money in one thingā€ is an assumption so I replied there are a lot of wealthy people on here pointing to the fact they most likely have shares in more than one thing so show some respect for there choices.

@Enlil Going off for 10 minutes whilst you research words and the meaning isn’t smart and its pretty pointless. I can be anything in the right circumstances, I’m only nice to nice people and I’m only arrogant to arrogant people. I’m never irrational. Everybody makes a case for argument from a position of authority or they wouldn’t have anything to say would they?
You obviously have nothing more to say of any substance so I’m off… your emoji says it all…

I keep seeing this on most forums. This not the true and it is also very true. This sentence does not make sense unless you attach to it a timeframe. Don’t think for a second that today’s market it soooooo much more different that it was in the past.

I tend to agree with @Vedran fundamentals are very important in the long run (5-10 years or more) => more towards the investment side

Fundamental are not that important in the short/medium range => speculative trading

In the short term when a company comes to the market at its share is $10 then person A will buy it speculative hoping that a year from now you will sell it to person B that is willing to buy it at $100. Person B buys it and holds it for a couple of years and sell it for $500 to person C (most likely an institution like a pension scheme not VC companies that keeps it as it knows that the price - based on fundamentals -
will not go down so it will not depreciate). So person C will keep it for 10 years and will sell it at $500 or more to person D (most likely another institution) => just like it used to be with commodity (gold) the price will hold or increase but not go down.

Side note: That is why Buffet bought Apple in 2016. They knew it will not go down from that point on. And they were hopping it will go up. How much up is besides the point. First important steps when you invest millions or billions is that it does not go down.

The point I am trying to make is Tesla is now owned by person B. And they all hope that person C is out there willing to buy it at a higher price. The problem is that person C is 100% going to look at fundamentals (number of cars sold etc). I personally think that person C exists if the stock is somewhere between $250-$400. I don’t think they are willing to pay $800 (on the premise that you buy it today at $600 and want to make a profit).

Also @Vedran said it best. Until you sell it… it is not actual profit. It is paper money. The same is with Musk. He is not the 2nd richest person in the world based on actual assets (money in the bank). He is because he owns Tesla F type (for founder) share that are valued at $$$$$$$ but that value can go to $ overnight.

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@Lenos1980

Yes, starting with me. I’m just not bragging about it or trying to get an edge over others with it. As for the use of the term " peasant" to describe people with less money, you should be ashamed of yourself.

You being wealthy entrepreneur doesn’t prove anything regarding your knowledge on speculative stocks (sophism again) and doesn’t entitle you to more (or less) respect than others.

PS: Why is there a time limit now for posting ? 25 mins, really ? Come on…

I am merely stating you are on a forum for investing and yet you are talking to us like we have no spare money at all (excuse the phrase peasants) as there are no known peasants in this time it was used purely as a phrase of saying and was not to be taken as some bash against poor or poorer people.
@Enlil You can’t say that we have all our money in Tesla when you know nothing about any of us, you were assuming we only have one stock.
My wealth or lack of it has nothing to do with you or anyone else and I have not suggested anything to bragg about what I do or don’t have.
You are just grasping at straws as you have no argument.

I also have little to knowledge of the stocks and shares market hence why I’m here, I have continuously said that I view this in a different context to those that view charts and figures so why claim I have said otherwise.
I have sent a pm to both of you rather than posting on here but neither of you have replied.
I’ve come here to talk about the future price of Tesla nothing else

Thanks a lot for your comment dragosMLT, I started this topic for inputs like this.

That was helpful!

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Dear @TheFeynmanEmulator you might find this useful. It is a simple theory that can be extrapolated to any trading (or goods) market as well. With Tesla I personally feel we are in the stage where Early Adopter meet Early Majority. The question now that everyone is thinking … will there be a Late Majority? Also look at the graph and how it is going up and down (in the stock market down might also read as sideways not necessarily fully down).

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Why are you using terms like ā€œweā€ and ā€œusā€ to try and make it look like it’s me against the entire forum ? That’s again a lame rhetorical tactic aiming to discredit me. Man, what can I say ? You are digging your own grave a little bit more each time you’re posting…

I’m done. I’ve said what I had to say about Tesla, electric cars in general and hype investing. The rest I don’t really care. Much love !

yep overweight here to tesla holds 15% my funds, i think the story will change early next year and drop off a bit, but then return to steady growth on the s&p … around feb march perhaps… wish id bought the mount i have today in march. crystal ball and all that. :wink: it does amaze me to read some people put huge sums on it … would have trouble sleeping if i had 100k sitting on it, if i did that i would day trade it and run away with the profit and put it in at&T realty income… ??

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